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Old Oct 5, 2016 | 8:50 am
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Originally Posted by tentseller
In Asia one can lose their job and/or license if anything goes wrong with a bus operated by them when the bus is in violation.

Anyone who has traveled in Asia and seen how all drivers drive will understand this. More so with crawling traffic and the sudden stops.
and i recall buses where one stands in EU and US
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Old Oct 5, 2016 | 9:09 am
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Originally Posted by tentseller
In Asia one can lose their job and/or license if anything goes wrong with a bus operated by them when the bus is in violation.

Anyone who has traveled in Asia and seen how all drivers drive will understand this. More so with crawling traffic and the sudden stops.
But it is the same in the US. One driver wasn't going to let on a passenger with a bicycle (the rack in front was full), and told her she had to wait for another bus. Which, if you are from the US (this wasn't NYC or anything), you know that would mean at least another half an hour.

But in the ideal world it isn't about whether or not you get in trouble as much as doing the right thing, which many times isn't following the rules.
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Old Oct 5, 2016 | 9:17 am
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Originally Posted by s0ssos
But it is the same in the US. One driver wasn't going to let on a passenger with a bicycle (the rack in front was full), and told her she had to wait for another bus. Which, if you are from the US (this wasn't NYC or anything), you know that would mean at least another half an hour.

But in the ideal world it isn't about whether or not you get in trouble as much as doing the right thing, which many times isn't following the rules.
Letting passengers onto a bus with bicycle or oversized "luggage" is a hazard to the other passengers.
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Old Oct 5, 2016 | 9:21 am
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because it is more expedient to have a standard operating procedure
and design of those can be motivated by things irrelevant to right
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Old Oct 5, 2016 | 9:34 am
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Originally Posted by tentseller
Letting passengers onto a bus with bicycle or oversized "luggage" is a hazard to the other passengers.
It actually isn't. There were about 5 passengers on the bus. You can load a herd of hippos and have enough room. This is a standard suburban area in the US we are talking about. Which means they run empty most of the time.
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Old Oct 6, 2016 | 2:12 am
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Which shuttle bus was it? (If you don't mind sharing that.)
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Interesting. I was curious as I took the HSR shuttle from TPE before (bus 706 I think), which doesn't get on the freeway: that one was basically like a city bus, and would let everyone in but get very crowded and there was no luggage space. On the other hand, TSA and KHH have direct rapid transit access. Forgot about RMQ though, as I've never been there.

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They used to be free, now cost money.
Actually, they used to cost money before they were free. Didn't know the policy was reversed yet again.

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Old Oct 6, 2016 | 9:38 am
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But how would you allocate capacity? To future stops, that is?
If it's a recurring problem, and if the buses are packed because most people ride the whole route (stops A to Z), then some buses should go express from the first stop (A) to the terminal (Z). Then other buses can start at B and make local stops.

Or if buses are packed because lots of people get on at stops A through M, then buses could run express from M to Z, and local buses could start at M (allowing people to switch at M if they have to go from, say, G to P).

Lots of possibilities and it sounds like either there aren't enough buses (or drivers) or they haven't analyzed the passenger flow.


But back to the matter of breaking the rules...as a driver I wouldn't risk my job for it, but on the surface I agree with it -- those sounded like extenuating circumstances that called for doing whatever was necessary to get people somewhere.

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Old Oct 6, 2016 | 6:57 pm
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Lots of possibilities and it sounds like either there aren't enough buses (or drivers) or they haven't analyzed the passenger flow.

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I always wondered how advanced bus companies are in analytics. In the US it seems they sure aren't, but public traffic via busses is probably much bigger (and thus worthy of attention?) in other countries.
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