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Originally Posted by Beven12S
(Post 26424489)
Are you as much as a superhero stud in real life as you are on the interwebs?
Sometimes the best chance for self-preservation involves taking a risk that you may be injured or killed in the process. You do realize that there are at least two responses undertaken as part of self-preservation efforts in the face of hostility? Fight or flee. Flee from a plane in the sky? Superheroes may have organic wings, but I know no one like that. ;) |
Originally Posted by greggarious
(Post 26405731)
Unfortunately, post 9/11 I have to assume they will crash they plane, killing not only everyone on board, but many on the ground. I would attack anyone who attempted to hijack the plane, and use as much force as needed to stop them. No holds barred - eye gouging, groin shots, biting - anything it takes to stop the threat, and if they die it's on them, not me. If I'm going to die, I'll do it fighting.
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Originally Posted by GUWonder
(Post 26425154)
You do realize that ordinary civilians have been involved in taking out various hijackers, wannabe hijackers and even wannabe bombers since 9/11?
Sometimes the best chance for self-preservation involves taking a risk that you may be injured or killed in the process. You do realize that there are at least two responses undertaken as part of self-preservation efforts in the face of hostility? Fight or flee. Flee from a plane in the sky? Superheroes may have organic wings, but I know no one like that. ;) The only hope of survival against a kamikaze hijacker is to keep them out of the cockpit, or retake the plane if they do capture the cockpit. To not act is certain death, in such a case you act no matter how long the odds. Furthermore, there will likely be plenty of people traveling with loved ones. Even if acting means certain death (say, jumping the guy with the grenade knowing you'll both end up in a pile on it) if it gives your loved ones a chance it's still worth doing. |
If they try to storm the cockpit, take them down by any means necessary.
Otherwise, play the grey man. I.e. sit down, shut up, don't move and try not to get noticed. Take action if, and only if, it is completely necessary. If you do take action, don't hold back - no half measures. |
Tweet about it. Nowadays with wi fi on planes, people will cry for help on social media. it will get to the authorities, and the plane will get shot down
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Originally Posted by Beven12S
(Post 26424489)
Are you as much as a superhero stud in real life as you are on the interwebs?
Now if I took the same stance in say, a shooting in the terminal, then yes you'd be right to say I'm some John Wayne type. (But in that scenario, I'd run like hell!) |
Originally Posted by jy3
(Post 26402051)
Looks like things are getting worse these days and it came up to my mind since I fly a lot on commerical airplanes.
Highjackings are extremely uncommon assurances. I would suggest that you stay out of countries like Belgium with minorities that are prone to extreme violence, fundamentalist religious states and places with political instability or high rates of violent crime in general. That said, the airline part of that doesn't create much of an issue for you. |
Originally Posted by Gringa
(Post 26407432)
Pray? :confused:
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Originally Posted by Beven12S
(Post 26424489)
Are you as much as a superhero stud in real life as you are on the interwebs?
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Originally Posted by GUWonder
(Post 26425154)
You do realize that ordinary civilians have been involved in taking out various hijackers, wannabe hijackers and even wannabe bombers since 9/11?
http://content.time.com/time/magazin...,55721,00.html |
Depending on the flight there could be marshall on the plane, so you would probably not need to do anything. If that is not the case then do not be a hero unless you absolutely have to. I would suggest a quick prayer and then assess the situation. How many people are there? What do they want, etc. If they it is looking dire then it is time to be a hero otherwise hold back.
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TWA
Originally Posted by ou81two
(Post 26430938)
If you head over to the Security forum, you'll hear all of the tin foil hat wearing folks complain about them.
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I wonder if you can spot a Marshall. Does he or she avoid alcohol, travel alone, look like Liam Neeson (if you've seen the film), etc?
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Nice Thread. One should make an article/blog about this. Although research would really be hard and conclusions inconclusive. -_-
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Originally Posted by michael.clark
(Post 26454610)
Nice Thread. One should make an article/blog about this. Although research would really be hard and conclusions inconclusive. -_-
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