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Originally Posted by shuigao
(Post 26407230)
Tricky question.
Firstly, I'd imagine it would be close to impossible to know if it's a 9/11-style, 'crash into a building,' hijacker or a egypt air 'I just want to meet my wife again' hijacker. The former necessitates far greater personal action/risk-taking than the latter. Personally I would probably just do nothing other than login to the plane's wi-fi, buy internet access, and send "this might be goodbye" messages to all my loved ones. |
Nah, I'm taking them down at all costs regardless of whether they're attempting to breach the cockpit. If they're hijacking the plane to do anything for any reason, I'm fighting dirty and taking them down. I'm not going to sit there and assume things about their intentions.
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I think you can probably tell them apart (political claim type versus kill the lot type) so that may impact my decision, but I am firmly of the 'take them out as soon as you can, if you can' camp (exceptions would be if they were wearing explosive vests with dead man triggers, holding a grenade with pin removed, etc.).
I think the population, as a whole, is more inclined to cooperate to defeat hostages on a plane in a post 9-11 world, as the loss of life on board would almost certainly be less than the loss of life on the ground if that was the intent of the terrorists. Even if the terrorists had small arms (I am assuming the likelihood of anything larger than a handgun is remote) there is a finite number of shots they can fire before needing to stop to reload. I also think pilots are maybe more likely to cause potential harm to passengers to save the plane load these days as well (e.g. knocking out oxygen supply to the cabin) which would be a good option, provided no dead man triggers of course! |
The chances of anyone experiencing a hijacking is extremely remote, unless you are the hijacker.
There are plenty of risks that are far more likely to occur to worry about instead of this. |
Originally Posted by emma69
(Post 26410002)
I think the population, as a whole, is more inclined to cooperate to defeat hostages on a plane in a post 9-11 world, as the loss of life on board would almost certainly be less than the loss of life on the ground if that was the intent of the terrorists.
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Originally Posted by greggarious
(Post 26405731)
Unfortunately, post 9/11 I have to assume they will crash they plane, killing not only everyone on board, but many on the ground. I would attack anyone who attempted to hijack the plane, and use as much force as needed to stop them. No holds barred - eye gouging, groin shots, biting - anything it takes to stop the threat, and if they die it's on them, not me. If I'm going to die, I'll do it fighting.
Originally Posted by nineworldseries
(Post 26409698)
Nah, I'm taking them down at all costs regardless of whether they're attempting to breach the cockpit. If they're hijacking the plane to do anything for any reason, I'm fighting dirty and taking them down. I'm not going to sit there and assume things about their intentions.
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Originally Posted by nineworldseries
(Post 26409698)
Nah, I'm taking them down at all costs regardless of whether they're attempting to breach the cockpit. If they're hijacking the plane to do anything for any reason, I'm fighting dirty and taking them down. I'm not going to sit there and assume things about their intentions.
Man, I really hope I am on the same flight as you if it's a 9/11 kind of hijacking. In a world where our kids know about Run, Hide, or Fight, something tells me you're hardwired for the last one. Respect.
Originally Posted by LondonElite
(Post 26406472)
Maybe you should read up on hijackings of the 1970s before you post this sort of nonsense.
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Originally Posted by LondonElite
(Post 26406472)
Maybe you should read up on hijackings of the 1970s before you post this sort of nonsense.
Originally Posted by TheTakeOffRush
(Post 26412685)
-1. Needlessly harsh.
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Originally Posted by Kiwi Flyer
(Post 26410005)
The chances of anyone experiencing a hijacking is extremely remote, unless you are the hijacker.
There are plenty of risks that are far more likely to occur to worry about instead of this. |
Originally Posted by TheTakeOffRush
(Post 26412685)
Man, I really hope I'm not on the same flight as you if it's a ride to Cuba kind of hijacking. And...
Man, I really hope I am on the same flight as you if it's a 9/11 kind of hijacking. In a world where our kids know about Run, Hide, or Fight, something tells me you're hardwired for the last one. Respect.. Frankly, it isn't about being a hero per se. It's about the fact that sadly, it's better to risk the loss of the plane than the loss of the plane PLUS lives on the ground. |
Originally Posted by greggarious
(Post 26416068)
You realize that the 9/11 hijackers also claimed if people complied they would not be hurt, right?
Frankly, it isn't about being a hero per se. It's about the fact that sadly, it's better to risk the loss of the plane than the loss of the plane PLUS lives on the ground. And calling someone's opinion nonsense (even if it it seems warranted) is -1 on the scale of Promoting Civil Discourse. |
Originally Posted by jy3
(Post 26402051)
Looks like things are getting worse these days and it came up to my mind since I fly a lot on commerical airplanes.
What actions could we take realistically when we experience hijacking? Is it the best to just sit calm and follow what the hijackers tell us to do? What are your thoughts on this? |
Originally Posted by darthbimmer
(Post 26411580)
There was a sea change in common wisdom that occurred in real time on 9-11. Before then, it was "Everyone stay quiet, do what the hijackers want, and you'll all get out alive." By mid-morning on that fateful day people had figured out, "The hijackers are determined to kill every single person on this plane plus thousands more on the ground. Consider yourselves deputized."
I think that political hijackers will usually make it clear what they want, such as the release of prisoners. If they don't, it's safe to assume they are suicide hijackers, and charge against them. |
Originally Posted by greggarious
(Post 26405731)
Unfortunately, post 9/11 I have to assume they will crash they plane, killing not only everyone on board, but many on the ground. I would attack anyone who attempted to hijack the plane, and use as much force as needed to stop them. No holds barred - eye gouging, groin shots, biting - anything it takes to stop the threat, and if they die it's on them, not me. If I'm going to die, I'll do it fighting.
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1. Check out flightradar24
2. See how many flights there are at any one time 3. Realise how unlikely a hijacking is. 4. Relax |
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