Fair enough. Some of those who can afford the F/J ticket (Mrs. SFO777 :p) undoubtedly dress up to look good, not because she thinks it will score her an upgrade.

The second part of my assertion (if you've paid for your j/f ticket, you dress the way you want to), I think, is still true.

Upgrade is determined by a computer no a human (for 99%).

What does "purchasing" a ticket ( vs stealing?) has to do with anything if you fly paid/miles should not matter in any way.

Why is it "snobbish" to dress up but not "hoboish" to dress down?

One of the purposes of my post was to introduce the term "Aero Nouveau Riche (ANR);" those who are "rich" in airline status predominantly due to heavy business travel.

I have met and worked with many ANR who make a decent living but not enough to justify their attitude in real life. A ANR is a person whose actual income does not justify his/her nitpicking between the ME3 in F when s/he cannot afford a Michelin 1-star dinner in real life, when the company is not picking up the tab. This person is also likely to drive a company BMW but is hugely stressed if layoffs are rumored because they do not have even 2 months cash reserves.

There are plenty of websites out there recommending to dress up for an upgrade. Whether that advice is good or not, people still may dress up for that purpose.

When did I use the term "hobo" or "snobbish." I used the term "Aero Nouveau Riche" and I will defend that.

It's fine for you to care about your appearance as long as you don't care about mine. This thread is rife with snide comments about "walmartians, references to "BBQs and NASCAR," posts bemoaning "lounge suits," pleas that women not wear tights, declarations that certain types of clothing are "tacky" and other overt snobbery.

I don't care what you wear as long as the naughty bits are covered and you don't cause olfactory offense. Meanwhile, I will select my apparel to suit me not to impress officious busybodies who are inordinately preoccupied with what other people are wearing.

Back on topic.....

And the answer is: nope.

My standard travel attire in domestic F as well as international J and F is blue jeans, a button down, long sleeve shirt and cowboy boots. If it's a bit chilly, a nice cashmere sweater from Scotland as well.

I also carry my own little bottle of Tabasco sauce in case of contingencies (such as a substandard Bloody Mary).

No, we dress the same as we did back when we flew economy, which was only a few years ago.

I'm glad I'm not the only person who does this! Got a few of the mini bottles on hand for food and Bloody Marys.

I pretty much always wear the same thing (the very casual end of business casual: short sleeve collared shirt of some sort and khakis/casual slacks) except to sleep, so no, don't really dress up or down.

Anything more formal is pretty much limited to the very occasional fancy dinner out, or the even more occasional wedding or funeral for the actual suit.

Although lately on long haul flights, to spare arriving in a slept-in shirt I'll switch to a t-shirt or short sleeve henley once on board, and switch back either shortly before landing or in the lounge.

Dress however you want. I've seen several replies that boil down to "Someone dressed in first class in a manner I don't like". It's classist, rude, and condescending. This is a thread about how people dress on planes, so I think it's valid to point out that clothing has no correlation with your worth as a person, despite what the Brooks Brothers salesman may have led you to believe.

It's funny that classism is mentioned in reference to first and business class passengers criticizing each other for their attire.

Not sure I follow. Care to elaborate?

Nope. When I am flying for work, however, I usually dress wearing an outfit that I could wear to a meeting if my suitcase got lost or one of my packed outfits had a rude encounter with a caramel macchiato. When I am traveling on vacation that doesn't apply. When I'm up front, however, I am there on status so I don't know which cabin I'll be in until I board half the time.

i book a bed. virgin atlantic (in first) gave us pj's and escorted us to the plane after a delightful dinner.

we usually fly in J, and i wear sweat shirt and sweat pants, and fabric house slippers. after using the latrine on the russian train, house slippers are disposable.

Sure. I thought it was funny because a serious concept regarding the marginalization and disenfranchisement of socially-disadvantaged people was just re-purposed so that it could be casually lobbed around on a frequent traveler forum in reference to premium cabin travelers.

It's kind of like observing one homeowner in Green Acres criticizing another because his/her picket fence is one inch shorter and calling it classism.

So, uh, yeah. It was funny.

I'd rather laugh than cry, anyway.

Edit to Add: I guess I prefer "snobby" to "classist." But language is open to interpretation, I guess. I've been the victim of such "snobbiness," too.

Travelers tend to wear the outfit that is most utilitarian for their purposes. It's a shame so many people can't see past that and have to be so presumptuous and condescending.

It seems that some people would only be happy if we all dressed down. Then there would be no differences.

Dress up, dress down, dress however you want. As long as I don't have to be pressed against a bare part of you (more an issue in coach -- no singlets/tank tops or short-shorts there please!) I don't care how anyone else dresses.

I'm a Floridian. If I'm not walking off the plane and heading right to a customer meeting, I'm usually in khaki shorts, sandals, and a t-shirt or polo regardless of the cabin. It's what I wear at home and I like to fly comfortable. If I'm headed up north in the winter I will usually wear jeans and real shoes instead because of the cold at my destination, but grudgingly.

Do I dress like a hobo? No, my clothes are clean. Do I dress like a slob? To some people, probably, but whatever. That's their problem, not mine. I'm on a sky bus, not eating in a fancy restaurant with a dress code. If the airlines cared, they'd impose a dress code on revenue pax the way they do on NRSA pax.

The problem I have with sandals or flip flops is that your feet sweat just like the rest of you. After a while, I can smell them. Maybe not after a 2 hr flight but certainly after a long day.

No sandals for me but my feet might not smell like roses when I take my boots off during a long flight. There's a chance my journey began many hours before when I departed an industrial site in a hot and humid developing country. ;)

I'll bring some cologne to spray on your feet. :)

I wouldn't advise it. The next thing you know someone will start a thread whining about colognes being sprayed in cabins. ;)

i'm an old guy, and although my feet do not smell, the rest of me really stinks after a couple hours. anyone have any recommendations?

Sounds like a good excuse to fly first class all the time ^:)

Do you want a serious answer? Are you taking any vitamins that make your skin smell? I imagine you already do the obvious like put on more deodorant? :)

Same here. Add if sometime long waits at remote airports with my feet marinating in 2 days of grease and sweat.....

Yeah, sit next to Badenoch. ;)

Sounds like a personal hygiene issue with a relatively easy fix - foot deodorant.

Many people's armpits will stink if they don't use deodorant - they rarely stink just because they've used deodorant but made the mistake of wearing a sleeveless shirt/blouse/dress.

Feet are no different - they don't stink because you're wearing sandals or barefoot, they stink because you didn't use proper hygiene.

I think a more likely source of odor is someone whose shoes or socks stink from poor foot hygiene. You might sit next to one of these people at a business meeting or restaurant and never know. Then they get on the plane (or, occasionally, relaxing in the lounge), kick off the shoes, and the stink is released.

I've noticed quite the opposite. My feet get sweaty and smellier wearing real shoes. With sandals, they stay nice and dry because they aren't marinading in sweaty socks for hours on end. That's one of the reasons I prefer wearing sandals on long flights in J where I'm taking my shoes off to sleep.

Ha! I had a good laugh from some of the posts above.

I put a pinch of corn starch or foot deodorizer in every pair of socks that I bring on a trip, and a big sprinkle in my main pair of shoes. I'm always afraid that I'll be the last one to notice the stink. I'm the mother of a teenage boy, and he appears to be impervious to his own, rather pungent, feet and footwear.

I like to have my feet in sandals, especially on long flights. I try to change my closed shoes in shower area of the lounge or in the loo, and will wash my feet with a damp towel in the lav, then wear my sandals on the flight.

This is why I always keep my shoes on until after climb-out, and then re-shoe at start of approach. Who wants to run for safety in socks and slippers? :eek:

Does VS offer FC? I thought it was just Upper Class (which is a business class product), Premium Economy and coach.

Me too, although I didn't always do this. In fact, when I first started flying I somehow thought that your were supposed to keep your shoes on until the seat belt sign went off after takeoff, and then I noticed that some others were removing their shoes before we left the gate.

I have these in very dark grey. Best travel investment I have ever made.

http://shop.lululemon.com/products/c...-Pant?cc=11547

And they tailor their products for free. :)

The SN has it's purpose. I wear a usually pink unicorn shirt or a variation of a unicorn shirt every single time I fly - it doesn't matter what cabin I am in.

J.jill has a line of comfy pants (as I call them) called Wearever. They come in different styles (slim leg, wide leg, cropped....) and mostly dark colors. There is also a nice selection of matching tops.

Talbots, llbean and lands end (the starfish line) are also good sources. All have versions that have flat (not gathered) waistbands, dark colors and nice fabrics that travel well.

After watching Downton Abbey all these years I decided to dress like "His Lordship" when I travel.

No. I do not.

Maybe next time I fly I'll wear a full blown tuxedo, to make sure no one on the plane is pained by seeing a member of the proletariat.

At the very least change into your dinner jacket before they serve the meal!