JCS Enterprise SCAM? I've "won" 4 roundtrip tickets!
Mar 9, 2017, 9:44 am
#31
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So, I'm not sure if this is the right thread but couldn't find anything that fits. This thread is to find out information, as well as share information on JCS Enterprise promotions etc...
So my mom and I went shopping a few weeks ago and filled out some contest forms for winning a car OR 4 round trip tickets. We thought, why not. So my mom got a call today (voicemail) saying she's the winner and to call this guy back. My mom, being skeptical, asked me to call and see what it's about, so I called. The guy tells me he's calling from JCS on behalf of Wyndham and that I filled out an entry form at the mall and I've won their "biggest prize" 4 round trip tickets to over 30 locations worth up to $4500!!... completely free... He kept saying that I've WON and that it's "mine"... but all they ask of me (me pretending to be my mom) -- and my "husband" to visit Wyndham in Manhattan and take a tour of the hotel. He passed it off as if this is how Wyndham is doing their advertising, and they want to show us the hotel up close and have us join their "club" but that it's not required and I can take the offer or leave it but at the end I'll still get the 4 vouchers for the free flights booked through a prepaid agency... I was already even more skeptical... Anyways, he asked me for some dates and I said I would need to speak with my husband since I don't know his schedule and he said to call back tomorrow.
I had a few questions after reading some BBB and other sites so I called him back. I read on one site that they make you purchase hotel from them and minimum stay of 4-7 days at their "discounted" rates... so I asked him... if I wanted to get the flight only, no hotel, can I do that? and he said no, the promotion (now it's a "promotion" and not a prize that I've "won")...
I really don't mind sitting thru 1-2 hours of their presentation knowing I won't buy anything but I don't want to waste my time if I have to buy hotel thru them knowing I can either get cheaper or stay with a friend...
So my question for this one is... If I've supposedly "won", by FTC sweepstakes rules... can i get the tickets without buying any hotel thru them, etc.? Has anyone come across this situation and able to get the flight without hotel thru agency?
Also, any actual successful winners?
So my mom and I went shopping a few weeks ago and filled out some contest forms for winning a car OR 4 round trip tickets. We thought, why not. So my mom got a call today (voicemail) saying she's the winner and to call this guy back. My mom, being skeptical, asked me to call and see what it's about, so I called. The guy tells me he's calling from JCS on behalf of Wyndham and that I filled out an entry form at the mall and I've won their "biggest prize" 4 round trip tickets to over 30 locations worth up to $4500!!... completely free... He kept saying that I've WON and that it's "mine"... but all they ask of me (me pretending to be my mom) -- and my "husband" to visit Wyndham in Manhattan and take a tour of the hotel. He passed it off as if this is how Wyndham is doing their advertising, and they want to show us the hotel up close and have us join their "club" but that it's not required and I can take the offer or leave it but at the end I'll still get the 4 vouchers for the free flights booked through a prepaid agency... I was already even more skeptical... Anyways, he asked me for some dates and I said I would need to speak with my husband since I don't know his schedule and he said to call back tomorrow.
I had a few questions after reading some BBB and other sites so I called him back. I read on one site that they make you purchase hotel from them and minimum stay of 4-7 days at their "discounted" rates... so I asked him... if I wanted to get the flight only, no hotel, can I do that? and he said no, the promotion (now it's a "promotion" and not a prize that I've "won")...
I really don't mind sitting thru 1-2 hours of their presentation knowing I won't buy anything but I don't want to waste my time if I have to buy hotel thru them knowing I can either get cheaper or stay with a friend...
So my question for this one is... If I've supposedly "won", by FTC sweepstakes rules... can i get the tickets without buying any hotel thru them, etc.? Has anyone come across this situation and able to get the flight without hotel thru agency?
Also, any actual successful winners?
But a basic rule...if you have to put up any of your own money for anything involving collecting those winnings, it's a scam. That includes investing in a trip to a property.
Mar 9, 2017, 9:44 am
#32
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I was surprised at how many people signed up for the timeshare program. We could tell, because they had a bottle of champagne on the table. I'd say about 1/5 of the people signed up, about 4 couples out of a fairly small group. They really pushed the "luxury vacations that you can afford" angle.
Mar 9, 2017, 11:04 am
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I was surprised at how many people signed up for the timeshare program. We could tell, because they had a bottle of champagne on the table. I'd say about 1/5 of the people signed up, about 4 couples out of a fairly small group. They really pushed the "luxury vacations that you can afford" angle.
Sep 17, 2017, 10:06 am
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I actually work for JCS In Laconia New Hampshire, and I was a little skeptical when I first started working there as well. I was asking myself if we were scamming people, and wondering whether or not I could work for a company that I didn't trust. I did some research on both my bosses and on Wyndham Vacation Resorts, and everything turned up alright. Its not a scam, and as a matter of fact, Wyndham has an A+ rating with the BBB and JCS does as well. Yes, you HAVE to book a hotel through the travel agency, however, the hotels come as cheap as $60 per night and the travel agency will match ANY price of the hotels website if you found it cheaper. It technically is classified as a promotion and that's because you physically have to go to the resort and pick it up. fortunately, however, that means that you don't have to pay any winning taxes. And depending on what day of the week you go, they will give you either a $50 or $100 dining dough certificate which can be used at almost any restaurant. Its well worth the 2 hour tour in my opinion.
Sep 18, 2017, 9:52 am
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and he said no, the promotion (now it's a "promotion" and not a prize that I've "won")...
There's your answer. You didn't actually win. You got yourself put on a "sucker list" by entering the sweepstakes. You will have to pay something at some point to "claim" your prize. Don't do it.
Still, for a bit of fun, you may want to ask this person to send you everything in writing, and sign it.
If at any time there is a statement that you "won", check your state laws. Some states require that all sweepstakes prizes be given the cash equivalent if the winner requests it.
There's your answer. You didn't actually win. You got yourself put on a "sucker list" by entering the sweepstakes. You will have to pay something at some point to "claim" your prize. Don't do it.
Still, for a bit of fun, you may want to ask this person to send you everything in writing, and sign it.
If at any time there is a statement that you "won", check your state laws. Some states require that all sweepstakes prizes be given the cash equivalent if the winner requests it.
Sep 18, 2017, 9:53 am
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I actually work for JCS In Laconia New Hampshire, and I was a little skeptical when I first started working there as well. I was asking myself if we were scamming people, and wondering whether or not I could work for a company that I didn't trust. I did some research on both my bosses and on Wyndham Vacation Resorts, and everything turned up alright. Its not a scam, and as a matter of fact, Wyndham has an A+ rating with the BBB and JCS does as well. Yes, you HAVE to book a hotel through the travel agency, however, the hotels come as cheap as $60 per night and the travel agency will match ANY price of the hotels website if you found it cheaper. It technically is classified as a promotion and that's because you physically have to go to the resort and pick it up. fortunately, however, that means that you don't have to pay any winning taxes. And depending on what day of the week you go, they will give you either a $50 or $100 dining dough certificate which can be used at almost any restaurant. Its well worth the 2 hour tour in my opinion.