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garykung Dec 19, 2014 10:40 pm


Originally Posted by mbwmbw (Post 24026072)
File a complaint. And don't fly Emirates again.

Complaint is an understatement.

As OP could possibly be prosecuted criminally, if I was the OP, I would simply file a lawsuit.

SpewyMcSpew Dec 19, 2014 10:48 pm

I would have asked for a second meal, then after make a few crop dusting pass by's after the husband took the seat. Maybe an evil eye or two.

BSBD Dec 20, 2014 7:14 am


Originally Posted by jubberly (Post 24026652)
The airline should have told the woman to cover herself or go to the toilet. Did she change the baby's diapers at her seat as well?

Go to the toilet? Do you eat in the toilet?

747FC Dec 20, 2014 9:31 am


Originally Posted by BSBD (Post 24027883)
Go to the toilet? Do you eat in the toilet?

Since this person (I won't call her a lady) filed a false complaint, the toilet is really where she belongs.

jubberly Dec 20, 2014 12:15 pm


Originally Posted by BSBD (Post 24027883)
Go to the toilet? Do you eat in the toilet?

If she's concerned about people looking at her breast's when she exposes them for everyone to see and doesn't cover herself up as most breast feeding mother's do in public....what's your problem with suggesting that she use the toilet for privacy if she's complaining about about someone looking at her breast's? What else do you think passenger's on a plane use the toilet for ?

Steve M Dec 20, 2014 1:10 pm


Originally Posted by garykung (Post 24026888)
As OP could possibly be prosecuted criminally, if I was the OP, I would simply file a lawsuit.

Prosecuted, for what? The OP himself said that the only thing the woman said was that "she was uncomfortable." As far as I can tell, the notion of the OP being accused of doing anything inappropriate was inferred by the OP, not implied by the woman or the FA. The woman could simply have expressed her feeling about being uncomfortable in breast feeding her baby while sitting immediately next to a man she didn't know. I would bet that a lot of women would feel that way, and in doing so in no way implies that the man did anything wrong.

It's a tough call. One part of me says that if the situation was that important to the woman and her family, they should have done whatever was necessary to get seat assignments together. But given that that didn't happen, she can't just not feed the baby for the duration of the flight (that would be the remedy for other such problems, such as not being able to talk to the husband for the flight - you just have to do without if you didn't do what you needed to do to sit together). I think the best thing to do in this particular situation would have been to take care of it in the lav, all things considered.

As far as a lawsuit, what are the damages that would be recovered, and from whom?

747FC Dec 20, 2014 1:36 pm

Falsely accused and relocated
 
The complainant appears to be a self-serving narcissist believing her emotions and comfort are more important than her fellow passengers.

celle Dec 20, 2014 1:42 pm

I think that sometimes you just have to accept that you are in a no-win situation. No point in escalating the whole event. It all sounds like a storm in a teacup to me.

OP: I'm sorry you lost the extra leg room you had planned for, but in your situation I would've been glad not to have to sit in a row with two small children.

BSBD Dec 20, 2014 2:13 pm


Originally Posted by jubberly (Post 24029072)
If she's concerned about people looking at her breast's when she exposes them for everyone to see and doesn't cover herself up as most breast feeding mother's do in public

I have carefully read the OP's posts, and I see nowhere that he says the woman was actually exposing herself. Unless you can show me where he said otherwise, I'm going to have to conclude that you're just making all this up to grandstand.

BSBD Dec 20, 2014 2:14 pm


Originally Posted by Steve M (Post 24029245)
I think the best thing to do in this particular situation would have been to take care of it in the lav,

Would YOU eat in the lav? If not, how can you suggest that someone else do so?

t325 Dec 20, 2014 2:23 pm


Originally Posted by Steve M (Post 24029245)
The woman could simply have expressed her feeling about being uncomfortable in breast feeding her baby while sitting immediately next to a man she didn't know. I would bet that a lot of women would feel that way, and in doing so in no way implies that the man did anything wrong.

Then she should go somewhere more private. If not the lav, I'm sure the flight attendants would allow her to do it in a galley for a few minutes. She shouldn't have the OP removed from his seat.

BSBD Dec 20, 2014 2:39 pm


Originally Posted by t325 (Post 24029501)
Then she should go somewhere more private. If not the lav, I'm sure the flight attendants would allow her to do it in a galley for a few minutes.

The law in most of the civilized countries is that breastfeeding mothers cannot be prevented from breastfeeding, nor be compelled to relocate because of a complainer or someone exhibiting signs of "discomfort." I'm willing to bet Emirates has a policy similar to these laws. Most airlines do.

BadgerBoi Dec 20, 2014 2:49 pm


Originally Posted by BSBD (Post 24029465)
Would YOU eat in the lav? If not, how can you suggest that someone else do so?

you're really missing the point here.


Originally Posted by BSBD (Post 24029558)
The law in most of the civilized countries is that breastfeeding mothers cannot be prevented from breastfeeding, nor be compelled to relocate because of a complainer or someone exhibiting signs of "discomfort." I'm willing to bet Emirates has a policy similar to these laws. Most airlines do.

Nobody was preventing her from breastfeeding. Nobody was compelling her to relocate, nobody complained or showed any signs of discomfort. The problem was all hers, if she was uncomfortable she should have moved somewhere else to feed the child.

Why didn't she offer to change seats with whoever was next to her husband? I think the answer to that is pretty obvious.

BSBD Dec 20, 2014 2:50 pm


Originally Posted by BadgerBoi (Post 24029600)
you're really missing the point here.

No, I'm not. The suggestions that the woman should feed her child in the lav are ludicrous.


Nobody was preventing her from breastfeeding. Nobody was compelling her to relocate, nobody complained or showed any signs of discomfort. The problem was all hers, if she was uncomfortable she should have moved somewhere else.
If the OP's story is accurate, it does indeed appear that she took advantage of the situation. OP probably should have seen it coming. I understand why OP did not want to swap his seat, but there was perhaps an opportunity to engage GA/FA when the request was made to see if something equitable could have been arranged. Tiny child, separated parents - little good was going to come of that if OP stayed where he was.

Finkface Dec 20, 2014 2:55 pm

Double post. See below.


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