Skinny seats...sore butts
Oct 30, 2014, 10:09 am
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Skinny seats...sore butts
http://online.wsj.com/articles/skinn...nes-1414602406
When are we--everyone--going to stand up and say enough is enough and get UA (and the others) to stop this insanity? 30"; 28" on the 737 MAX? 10 across instead of 9.
...or like the lemmings to the sea are we?
When are we--everyone--going to stand up and say enough is enough and get UA (and the others) to stop this insanity? 30"; 28" on the 737 MAX? 10 across instead of 9.
...or like the lemmings to the sea are we?
Oct 30, 2014, 10:18 am
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This was interesting...
...Boeing 777-200s are already being expanded from 247 seats up to 289 seats. One big change on the 777: American is installing 10 seats across each coach row, up from nine. That shrinks the width of each seat to 17 inches, down from 18 and 18.5 inches. Emirates, Air France , Air Canada , Air New Zealand and others have all made that change; Delta and United so far have refused, deeming 17 inches too tight for very long trips overseas.
American has estimated that adding more seats to planes and better matching the size of the aircraft to each trip flown will create about $600 million for the merged airline by 2015. It says new seating will meet comfort standards.
“If people don’t like it, they won’t buy it,” a spokesman says....
...Boeing 777-200s are already being expanded from 247 seats up to 289 seats. One big change on the 777: American is installing 10 seats across each coach row, up from nine. That shrinks the width of each seat to 17 inches, down from 18 and 18.5 inches. Emirates, Air France , Air Canada , Air New Zealand and others have all made that change; Delta and United so far have refused, deeming 17 inches too tight for very long trips overseas.
American has estimated that adding more seats to planes and better matching the size of the aircraft to each trip flown will create about $600 million for the merged airline by 2015. It says new seating will meet comfort standards.
“If people don’t like it, they won’t buy it,” a spokesman says....
Last edited by Bonehead; Oct 30, 2014 at 10:46 am
Oct 30, 2014, 10:44 am
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Oct 30, 2014, 10:51 am
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http://online.wsj.com/articles/skinn...nes-1414602406
When are we--everyone--going to stand up and say enough is enough and get UA (and the others) to stop this insanity? 30"; 28" on the 737 MAX? 10 across instead of 9.
...or like the lemmings to the sea are we?
When are we--everyone--going to stand up and say enough is enough and get UA (and the others) to stop this insanity? 30"; 28" on the 737 MAX? 10 across instead of 9.
...or like the lemmings to the sea are we?
Oct 30, 2014, 11:02 am
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Oct 30, 2014, 11:25 am
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This was interesting...
[I]...Boeing 777-200s are already being expanded from 247 seats up to 289 seats. One big change on the 777: American is installing 10 seats across each coach row, up from nine. That shrinks the width of each seat to 17 inches, down from 18 and 18.5 inches. Emirates, Air France , Air Canada , Air New Zealand and others have all made that change; Delta and United so far have refused, deeming 17 inches too tight for very long trips overseas.
[I]...Boeing 777-200s are already being expanded from 247 seats up to 289 seats. One big change on the 777: American is installing 10 seats across each coach row, up from nine. That shrinks the width of each seat to 17 inches, down from 18 and 18.5 inches. Emirates, Air France , Air Canada , Air New Zealand and others have all made that change; Delta and United so far have refused, deeming 17 inches too tight for very long trips overseas.
Oct 30, 2014, 11:53 am
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Delta already has a high density configuration in comparison, so their need for 10-across to reduce CASM isn't as important as AA's. UA is really the lone holdout now.
A comfortable 17" seat is infinitely better than an uncomfortable 18" one.
A comfortable 17" seat is infinitely better than an uncomfortable 18" one.
Oct 30, 2014, 11:57 am
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This was interesting...
...Boeing 777-200s are already being expanded from 247 seats up to 289 seats. One big change on the 777: American is installing 10 seats across each coach row, up from nine. That shrinks the width of each seat to 17 inches, down from 18 and 18.5 inches. Emirates, Air France , Air Canada , Air New Zealand and others have all made that change; Delta and United so far have refused, deeming 17 inches too tight for very long trips overseas.
American has estimated that adding more seats to planes and better matching the size of the aircraft to each trip flown will create about $600 million for the merged airline by 2015. It says new seating will meet comfort standards.
“If people don’t like it, they won’t buy it,” a spokesman says....
...Boeing 777-200s are already being expanded from 247 seats up to 289 seats. One big change on the 777: American is installing 10 seats across each coach row, up from nine. That shrinks the width of each seat to 17 inches, down from 18 and 18.5 inches. Emirates, Air France , Air Canada , Air New Zealand and others have all made that change; Delta and United so far have refused, deeming 17 inches too tight for very long trips overseas.
American has estimated that adding more seats to planes and better matching the size of the aircraft to each trip flown will create about $600 million for the merged airline by 2015. It says new seating will meet comfort standards.
“If people don’t like it, they won’t buy it,” a spokesman says....
And kudos to United (and Delta) to resist.
Oct 30, 2014, 12:44 pm
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Am I missing something? I thought UA Dreamliners and Boeing jets are 17" width...
http://www.united.com/web/en-US/cont...0/default.aspx
http://www.united.com/web/en-US/cont...0/default.aspx
This was interesting...
...Boeing 777-200s are already being expanded from 247 seats up to 289 seats. One big change on the 777: American is installing 10 seats across each coach row, up from nine. That shrinks the width of each seat to 17 inches, down from 18 and 18.5 inches. Emirates, Air France , Air Canada , Air New Zealand and others have all made that change; Delta and United so far have refused, deeming 17 inches too tight for very long trips overseas.
...Boeing 777-200s are already being expanded from 247 seats up to 289 seats. One big change on the 777: American is installing 10 seats across each coach row, up from nine. That shrinks the width of each seat to 17 inches, down from 18 and 18.5 inches. Emirates, Air France , Air Canada , Air New Zealand and others have all made that change; Delta and United so far have refused, deeming 17 inches too tight for very long trips overseas.
Oct 30, 2014, 1:13 pm
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Oct 30, 2014, 6:45 pm
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When the seats get so uncomfortable that people refuse to pay to sit in them, the airlines will reverse their strategy. But as long as the flying public votes with their wallets to save money at the expense of comfort, the airlines will be happy to oblige.