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IceTrojan Sep 18, 2014 1:06 am


Originally Posted by CX HK (Post 23544153)
Am I just being stupid? I don't see how the receipt system can save 15-20 seconds per visitor. The "stamping" itself takes 2 seconds to find an open spot and stamp, and at airports like FCO the entire process takes about 3 seconds from handing over the passport to getting it back and being waved through.

I think the problem was that HKG required 2-3 stamps, and the motion of picking one up, stamping, putting it down, and repeating ate into efficiency. I think there was a mention of the actual costs of the stampers themselves. Logically, it made perfect sense and the article was convincing.

But we're not Vulcans. And I want my stamp.

IceTrojan Sep 18, 2014 1:07 am


Originally Posted by Centurion (Post 23544162)
If you really want a stamp you can still get stamped at most locations.

But not at HKG.

(Or SGN/HAN/DAD.)

CX HK Sep 18, 2014 1:11 am


Originally Posted by LAXative (Post 23544177)
But not at HKG.

(Or SGN/HAN/DAD.)

Or Macau! I know people who used to rack up half a dozen stamps in a day going from Shenzhen-Hong Kong-Macau

moondog Sep 18, 2014 1:12 am


Originally Posted by LAXative (Post 23544177)
But not at HKG.

(Or SGN/HAN/DAD.)

I got stamped at HAN a few months ago, but they stamped my VN visa insert instead of my passport. For those of us that like to conserve passport pages, VN issues detached visas for no additional fee as long as you give the issuing people an extra picture.

ThomasSmrs Sep 18, 2014 1:49 am


Originally Posted by LAXative (Post 23544144)
Nope... they physically don't have the stamps anymore, so they couldn't even if they wanted to.

I read an article saying the receipt system saved each agent something like 15-20 seconds per visitor, so when multipled thousands of times, you get thousand of people who are sad that they don't get a stamp. :D

Seriously though, they should retain 1-2 lines for "classic stamp" seekers. If they want a stamp, they can wait.

(I would probably be in that line)


Charge 5 euros for each stamp and profit! :) Collect stamps from all 28 EU countries and you get a thank you card autographed by Vladimir Putin.

mecabq Sep 18, 2014 3:10 am

I sort of enjoy flipping through my passport looking at old stamps.

I don't enjoy when the border agent at exit flips through for 30 seconds (this happened to me at FCO the other day) trying to find the entry stamp for whatever reason. (In this case, there was none, as the agent upon entry in FCO could only be bothered to look up from his smart phone long enough to glance briefly at my passport then hand it back to me.)

I also don't enjoy having to go through the hassle of getting extra pages added, which would disappear for the most part if stamps went away (of course it's still possible for the passport to be filled with visa stickers).

Still, Americans are lucky -- some (most?) countries won't add pages, so one has to get a whole new passport, making it a significant cost of effort, time, and money. (I pity those, like a friend of mine, who have to replace their Syrian passports nowadays.)

moondog Sep 18, 2014 3:19 am


Originally Posted by mecabq (Post 23544427)
Still, Americans are lucky -- some (most?) countries won't add pages, so one has to get a whole new passport, making it a significant cost of effort, time, and money. (I pity those, like a friend of mine, who have to replace their Syrian passports nowadays.)

When I was adding new pages to my US passport in HK earlier this year, I caught a glance at the price sheet:

-page inserts (up to two sets) = $82
-new passport = $75

I would have gone with the latter (can also be 48 pages), but I didn't fancy the idea of toting around 2 passports (current passport has PRC visa with 1.5 years remaining validity and HK eChannel).

dvs7310 Sep 18, 2014 4:47 am

I have to say I'd like to see a lot fewer countries stamping and more going to the paper receipt like HK. I do enjoy looking through my old ones especially the oddballs like Seychelles but I'd love to actually have a passport last 10 years. Sure I can get pages added but it's not free anymore and nearly as much as a new passport.

I do good to get 5 years out of a "business" size passport now.

moondog Sep 18, 2014 4:55 am

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lhrsfo Sep 18, 2014 4:58 am

Having both UK and US passports, and not having travelled outside the EU and USA now for some years, I'm sad to report that both my passports have no stamps at all in them...

hawklx Sep 18, 2014 7:37 am

I am glad I am not the only one that loves passport stamps. After every trip I always flip through the pages, thinking back all the airports I have been to.

So far I have stamps from LHR Terminal 1, 2, 3 and 5. I just need to find a opportunity to fly to T4 to complete LHR grand slam:D. And although I have flown out of LCY a couple of times I have yet to fly into it to get my collection.

GUWonder Sep 18, 2014 9:04 am


Originally Posted by cbn42 (Post 23543587)
I think passport booklets are an outdated tool and will probably be replaced by card-style passports at some point in the future. More and more countries are not stamping passports, and I believe most countries track visas by computer so it is not possible to travel on a counterfeit visa. Eventually, there should be no need for booklets anymore. Antiquated technology, however, is usually slow to disappear, so it may take a while.

It is still possible for people to travel on counterfeit visas issued by countries which track visa issuance and processing by computer. Even counterfeit US visas are used by asylum-seekers.

BuildingMyBento Sep 18, 2014 9:32 am


Originally Posted by moondog (Post 23543845)
eChannel saves me an average of 25 minutes per week (most often at Shenzhen Bay or the HK Macau Ferry Terminal... Huanggang doesn't have eChannel for passports yet).

I happen to dislike passport stamps because adding extra pages is annoying.

The inconvenient e-channel lane I was referring to is in Luo Hu (well, at that point, Luo Wu). It's ironic that frequent HK visitors are corralled to an e-channel further away, but standard issue visitors just walk straight from the exit gates of the MTR. Then again, nothing at the Luo Hu border makes sense.

Then, there's the slip of paper. Yes, because adding pages now costs money, I'm not as keen on passport chops (though I have plenty of pages now), but the receipt seems anachronistic. If we simply can scan our bar code and fingerprint to pass through, why not leave it at that? Wouldn't the computer know when we entered?

Of course, hotels and consulates for example want to see your pertinent entry information, but if only there was another way...

brendog Sep 18, 2014 9:52 am

The fewer stamps I get, the less often I get bent over and charged an extortionate fee to add pages to my passports.

I guess I'm not very sentimental...

ThomasSmrs Sep 18, 2014 10:00 am


Originally Posted by cbn42 (Post 23543587)
I think passport booklets are an outdated tool and will probably be replaced by card-style passports at some point in the future. More and more countries are not stamping passports, and I believe most countries track visas by computer so it is not possible to travel on a counterfeit visa. Eventually, there should be no need for booklets anymore. Antiquated technology, however, is usually slow to disappear, so it may take a while.

Probably won't happen in my lifetime.... but I sure someone is working on a way to make teleportation possible. instead of 15-hour grueling nonstop flights to Sydney, just beam me from my iPhone 6 Plus directly from my LA home to my Sydney hotel in under 5 seconds. (but what if there are visa or passport issues? will my particles be suspended in the server for ever)


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