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Originally Posted by lg10
(Post 23526070)
Since I actually suggested Left for RECLINERS, then yes any imagined hostility about deplaning was incidental and more in the mind of the beholder. I also gave a rationale for why the front vs. the back (fairness to people in transition rows).
Ignoring the hostility of the middle seats suggestion, I would gladly pay the guy in front of me $50 not to recline for the whole flight. In the meantime, have you tried the $50 thing on a flight? Seems to me that a lot of people who are flying coach to save money would be happy to accept. |
Originally Posted by Tchiowa
(Post 23529009)
You're right, I misread your original post. Sorry.
In the meantime, have you tried the $50 thing on a flight? Seems to me that a lot of people who are flying coach to save money would be happy to accept. Has anyone tried this? BTW to the other poster about "public good" - I'm not "deciding" that something I like is a public good - it's clear that the lack of someone reclining into your row - is a measurable positive (people pay for it in various ways, when possible). So therefore - when I don't recline, I am giving (or at any rate, not taking) a good to/from someone else. If someone reclines while the person in front of him/her does not, then s/he gets effectively "extra" space in the "commons" of Coach Minus. (This is the "good" that I said I'd pay $50 for.) To my way of thinking, when someone reclines into my row, they are doing the equivalent of taking that $50 (?) of value, leaving me only the opportunity to take it in turn from the person behind me, which seems distasteful. |
Basically Airlines have accept that we have reached the end of the line now with reducing space in economy. I try not to recline but now days I am too Short for these seats so sitting upright cases me as much pain as Long leg's behind me.
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If you find someone to take $50 to not recline on a flight, I think that would be pretty amazing. I know I wouldn't take $.
Hey, maybe though this could be the start of something. How about if only middle seats couldn't recline? They are usually pretty crappy seats anyways, and I never sit in them, wouldn't concern me any if they couldn't recline. Win win for everyone! |
I disagree with this whole premise.
This thread makes it seem like people are roughly 50-50 split between recliners and non-recliners. It has been my experience that the significant majority of coach travelers don't care if the seat in front is reclined. I would say that the only exception is during meal service. |
Originally Posted by lg10
(Post 23528431)
When the news outlets have done polls after the big stories, it's been about evenly split from what I can tell, or at most 60-40 in any one direction.
Originally Posted by lg10
(Post 23529157)
No, I never have - do you think it would work in real time? Do you think $20 would be enough? Would you offer before the flight starts, or when the person starts to recline? How do I know he won't take the $$ and recline, or how does he know, I won't stiff him on the $$ if he doesn't recline? (I wouldn't, but I mean, in general.)
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Originally Posted by cafeandres
(Post 23526952)
It's the seats in front of the exit row that don't recline. That's to keep the exit row clear if people have to escape through it.
The only exit row seats that don't recline are those on flights with double exit rows, one behind the other. In that case, the front exit row doesn't recline so as not to block the back exit row during an emergency. |
can be good to book that rear exit row, where row in front doesnt recline
or bulkhead when bulkhead has storage spaces |
Originally Posted by pinniped
(Post 23528515)
If I founded an airline, it'd be no-reclining in any kind of Economy Minus seat. I'd just have the seats configured so they don't recline.
Before anyone suggests "that would never work", remember that the most successful airline in the U.S. right now is Spirit. I swear I'll never set foot on Spirit for any reason whatsoever, but clearly lots of people are choosing them every single day. Because It's inconvenient? But it's ok to inconvenient others who want to recline? |
Originally Posted by moeve
(Post 23529485)
Basically Airlines have accept that we have reached the end of the line now with reducing space in economy. I try not to recline but now days I am too Short for these seats so sitting upright cases me as much pain as Long leg's behind me.
If an airline says that they are going to test these seats and drop fares by 20% then they will sell out the flight. Remember, all these cramped seats, reduced pitch, no meals, etc. were a direct result of passengers voting with their wallets that they would rather be hungry and cramped if it means they can save money. If these cramped flights were empty the airlines would change. But as long as the passengers vote with their wallets they way they do, things will continue to move toward less space. |
Originally Posted by HMO
(Post 23532629)
This is a good question. Why do no-recliners not flight Spirit?
Because It's inconvenient? But it's ok to inconvenient others who want to recline? |
Originally Posted by HMO
(Post 23532629)
This is a good question. Why do no-recliners not flight Spirit?
Because It's inconvenient? But it's ok to inconvenient others who want to recline? |
Originally Posted by HMO
(Post 23532629)
This is a good question. Why do no-recliners not flight Spirit?
Remember, just because an airline exists doesn't mean that everyone is free to choose it. |
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