Flying in an MD-80
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I have nothing of value to add to this thread beyond stating that I enjoy flying Y in MD-80s and find them comfortable (in relative terms of course).
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The MD-family is my favorite type of narrow body plane.
In my case, it's mostly attributed to the 3-2 seating, and the wider seats (compared to Boeing products).
In my case, it's mostly attributed to the 3-2 seating, and the wider seats (compared to Boeing products).
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I try to avoid MD-80s due to their inherent design flaw with the jack screw. That being said, increased inspection and maintenance procedures has resulted in no major issues since 2000. For the OP's concern MD-80s are essentially the same size as the 737s. In terms of stability in turbulence, noise, ext, there are no reasons for choosing one over the other.
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I try to avoid MD-80s due to their inherent design flaw with the jack screw. That being said, increased inspection and maintenance procedures has resulted in no major issues since 2000. For the OP's concern MD-80s are essentially the same size as the 737s. In terms of stability in turbulence, noise, ext, there are no reasons for choosing one over the other.
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The lack of a fail-safe on a primary control system is an inherent design flaw that was determined to be too expensive to fix/redesign. As I also mentioned, new maintenance and inspections have prevented other incidents.
As for the 737 rudders, I believe the system was redesigned and all planes in use have been retrofitted since 2008. In addition, Boeing installed a limiter on the rudder in the event of preventing a catastrophic event in the case of ANY rudder incident. THIS is failsafe and that is that is what they are for.
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Sure, it's quiet on the takeoff roll but once you're above 10,000 ft and 250 KIAS that slipstream noise becomes loud, loud, LOUD.
Given a choice between a flight on a 737 and a Mad Dog, I would choose the dog every time.
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That was one of the contributing factors in the THY crash short of the runway at AMS/EHAM. Failed RA causes negative AGL indication, thrust levers brought back to idle by the autothrottles, clueless pilots fly on for over a minute not realizing they were at idle and getting progressively lower than the glideslope, airplane lands in field way short of runway.
An AA 738 shooting an approach into MIA had an almost identical scenario within +/- a couple weeks of the THY accident at AMS. The good news is that the pilots flying that airplane immediately recognized the uncommanded rollback, disconnected the autopilot, advanced the throttles and hand flew a go around and subsequent completely normal, uneventful landing.
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PSA's M80s had a "family" section (iirc just forward of the overwing exits) with an aft-facing row of seats ... takeoff was really interesting from those seats because a lightly-loaded MadDog climbs like a rocket
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Above is wild exaggeration. I fly on tons of AA MD-80s as well as plenty of other types operated by AA, DL, MQ, OO... I also track all my flights.
There is no airline/equipment type in my experience that jumps out as having a disproportionate number of delays.
I've had mechanical delays on AA MD-80s... at about the same rate as I have had mechanical delays on other types and other airlines.
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I spend many, many hours on AA Mad Dogs, and while I have experienced all kinds of delays (oh hello, terrible weather in Dallas!), maintenance sign-off is not a bigger issue on the MD80 than anywhere else.
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In any case, on those rare flights I should think you'd be glad to not have any Dutch rolls. My stomach would vastly prefer a Danish or a Croissant instead.

