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FlyerTom111 May 24, 2014 10:13 am


Originally Posted by Arcanum (Post 22914961)
I'm more surprised that they're flying commercial, particularly as it was an official visit. Surely the royals have private planes available!

The fly commercial now to be more "eco-friendly".

paulwuk May 24, 2014 11:37 am


Originally Posted by AA_EXP09 (Post 22917943)
With smartgate which UK passport holders are entitled to use, no one might ask them for their passport (as the machine will)

Oh Iris how we miss ye

GUWonder May 24, 2014 3:46 pm


Originally Posted by FlyerTom111 (Post 22918214)
The fly commercial now to be more "eco-friendly".

.... except when not flying commercial, scheduled common carriers.

At least some fly economy class sometimes too, even when there may be more than one class of service on board a plane.

As a practical matter, a booking can be made under names that don't match perfectly with the passports and still the passport information is acceptable for travel even to places with an APIS-type of requirement.

Sheikh Yerbooty May 24, 2014 3:50 pm


Originally Posted by Arcanum (Post 22914961)
I'm more surprised that they're flying commercial, particularly as it was an official visit. Surely the royals have private planes available!

Some royals do, others don't. The RAF has a Royal Flight, but the biggest aircraft they're operating is a BAe-146s, which is far from the ideal choice traveling to Oz from UK. As such the UK royal family will either book commercial (paid by the country they visit if it's within the Commonwealth), or the visiting nation might send one of their aircraft if it's suitable for the task (like when Canada sends an A310 across the pond), of when Will and Kate went across the Tasman sea and the RNZAF made a 757 available. Again, it's the visited (Commonwealth) nation who foots the bill.

As for the '90 bags', perhaps QF charged overweight, though chances are that they didn't. And if they charged, it would be the Australian government picking up the tab.

Sheikh Yerbooty May 24, 2014 3:51 pm


Originally Posted by FlyerTom111 (Post 22918214)
The fly commercial now to be more "eco-friendly".

No, they flew commercial because there wasn't any other option.

Calchas May 24, 2014 5:04 pm

The Passport and Identity service has a detailed document on how passports can be embellished with observations on alternative names, titles and so on.

https://www.gov.uk/government/upload...-passports.pdf

But it seems unlikely that the Royal couple had to pass through formal immigration control.

GUWonder May 24, 2014 5:38 pm


Originally Posted by Calchas (Post 22919637)
The Passport and Identity service has a detailed document on how passports can be embellished with observations on alternative names, titles and so on.

https://www.gov.uk/government/upload...-passports.pdf

But it seems unlikely that the Royal couple had to pass through formal immigration control.

They often pass through formal immigration control but it's usually handled by special liaisons from the receiving country and the sending country so that the wait in line in public view process doesn't take place. Sometimes they have to sit and wait in a special room or a vehicle for the immigration control formalities to be passed.

FlyerTom111 May 25, 2014 12:40 am

Prince William flew in economy coach a few weeks ago on American Airlines flight from Memphis to Dallas.

See here:

http://hollywoodlife.com/2014/05/06/...conomy-flight/

alanR May 25, 2014 1:50 am


Originally Posted by Sheikh Yerbooty (Post 22919401)
No, they flew commercial because there wasn't any other option.

Queen & other Royals has been flying commercial for decades. They even use "ordinary" trains

c1223 May 25, 2014 4:12 am


Originally Posted by tmac100 (Post 22917826)
If you are referring to Queen Elizabeth, I have read that she does NOT have a passport. SO,that "degree" of freedom might be extended to others in "the company".

Indeed. If you read the front of your passport it'll say:

"'Her Britannic Majesty's Secretary of State requests and requires in the name of Her Majesty all those whom it may concern to allow the bearer to pass freely without let or hindrance and to afford the bearer such assistance and protection as may be necessary.'"

So if Queen Elizabeth had a passport it'd be a bit like her singing the national anthem.

Also:


All other members of the Royal Family, including The Duke of Edinburgh and The Prince of Wales, have passports.

SteelCityBoy May 25, 2014 4:50 am

Correct me if I am wrong but isn't it the case that William and Charles cannot travel together due to their being 1st and 2nd in line to throne?

Wouldn't the same principle therefore prevent William and George travelling together?

LegalEagle May 25, 2014 5:51 am

No last name
 
Technically Prince William doesn't have a last name. Formally he would sign his name "William" with a line under it and the word "princepts." When modern society demands a last name,Royals have used various. Previously, they used WINDSOR. When Prince Charles was a helicopter pilot in the armed services, his personnel recordes identified him as Charles Wales. I think William and Harry use Wales because their dad did.

sbbutler93 May 25, 2014 10:59 am


Originally Posted by SteelCityBoy (Post 22921116)
Correct me if I am wrong but isn't it the case that William and Charles cannot travel together due to their being 1st and 2nd in line to throne?

Wouldn't the same principle therefore prevent William and George travelling together?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-together.html

FlyerTalker68098 May 25, 2014 5:01 pm

It serves as a basic form of data protection to avoid employees stumbling across it or searching for it with intent. Each company will have a policy/process for individuals of this level that travel - in fact there will be a database restricted to certain employees that holds the correct version (but not always).

ericblair May 25, 2014 9:19 pm


Originally Posted by LondonElite (Post 22916785)
The Queen is the only Royal without a passport.

In the US, the President does (apparently with the endorsement that "The Bearer is President of the United States" in case you didn't know), and even though passports are issued under the authority of the Secretary of State, he himself has one too.


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