New Dreamliner Problem: Engine Flaw
Nov 24, 2013 | 2:58 am
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New Dreamliner Problem: Engine Flaw
This weekend's news has a certain déjŕ vu about it although it won't result in anything as serious as the January 16 worldwide grounding of the Dreamliner.
It only impacts 787s with GEnx engines and will apparently only impact airlines on certain routes.
When I find out (or we publish) more news on this, I'll try to circle back here as well.
Boeing Reports Engine Flaw in GE-Powered Dreamliners, 747s
It only impacts 787s with GEnx engines and will apparently only impact airlines on certain routes.
When I find out (or we publish) more news on this, I'll try to circle back here as well.
Boeing Reports Engine Flaw in GE-Powered Dreamliners, 747s
Boeing issued a safety recommendation on Friday to operators of its 787 Dreamliners and the 747-8 Intercontinental aircraft that are powered by General Electric engines concerning engine malfunctions that can occur in certain situations. The action has caused some airlines to not use those aircraft on certain routes….
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Nov 24, 2013 | 10:48 am
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http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/...16624101798050
Boeing Co. urged operators of 787 Dreamliners and the newest 747 models that are powered by General Electric Co. GE engines to avoid high-altitude thunderstorms, which can cause engine malfunctions.
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Boeing's warning prompted Japan Airlines Co. 9201.TO -0.57% to replace 787 Dreamliners on routes linking Tokyo with New Delhi and Singapore and to drop plans for using 787s between Tokyo and Sydney.
There have been six icing-related incidents with GEnx engines since April, most recently early this month, affecting five 747s and one 787.
GE has said that the aircraft that experienced engine issues landed safely at their destinations and that in every case, the engines resumed normal thrust.
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JAL said its 787s would continue on other routes where they are less likely to encounter the high-altitude storms that can cause tiny ice crystals to build up inside engines. The airline's statement also suggested that it is likely to seek financial penalties from Boeing and GE.
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Boeing's warning prompted Japan Airlines Co. 9201.TO -0.57% to replace 787 Dreamliners on routes linking Tokyo with New Delhi and Singapore and to drop plans for using 787s between Tokyo and Sydney.
There have been six icing-related incidents with GEnx engines since April, most recently early this month, affecting five 747s and one 787.
GE has said that the aircraft that experienced engine issues landed safely at their destinations and that in every case, the engines resumed normal thrust.
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JAL said its 787s would continue on other routes where they are less likely to encounter the high-altitude storms that can cause tiny ice crystals to build up inside engines. The airline's statement also suggested that it is likely to seek financial penalties from Boeing and GE.
Nov 24, 2013 | 11:04 am
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I don't get comments such as these, or rather I disagree with comments such as these.
It is like saying AF447 was Thales' fault and not Airbus'
For my money (which is a considerable amount if we are talking buying an aeroplane) and in accordance with any international programme management protocol such as PMI or APM. It is absolutely Airbus and Boeing's responsibility to ensure that the components that they procure for their aircraft function as intended.
With thousands of suppliers for any aircraft type, I think it is a dangerous precedent if we learn to shift blame between them.
It is like saying AF447 was Thales' fault and not Airbus'
For my money (which is a considerable amount if we are talking buying an aeroplane) and in accordance with any international programme management protocol such as PMI or APM. It is absolutely Airbus and Boeing's responsibility to ensure that the components that they procure for their aircraft function as intended.
With thousands of suppliers for any aircraft type, I think it is a dangerous precedent if we learn to shift blame between them.
Nov 24, 2013 | 1:02 pm
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Depending on how far you want to take this, Boeing doesn't really make aeroplanes either then. They simply assemble subcontracted parts.
By an extension of that. Why would Toyota recall 3.8 millions cars when they make neither carpets nor accelerator pedals?
Because the buck stops at them would be my guess.
By an extension of that. Why would Toyota recall 3.8 millions cars when they make neither carpets nor accelerator pedals?
Because the buck stops at them would be my guess.
Nov 24, 2013 | 2:27 pm
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New Dreamliner Problem: Engine Flaw
Funny thing. I own Toyota Camry under the recall for few things and I'm in LH lounge at IAD waiting to board my first B748-8 flight in 40 minutes 
I don't want to argue, but Boeing doesn't sell the engines, they just arrange financing to GE PW and RR.
I don't want to argue, but Boeing doesn't sell the engines, they just arrange financing to GE PW and RR.
Nov 24, 2013 | 2:40 pm
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LH 747-8i is a lovely ride. Enjoy it
Nov 24, 2013 | 2:51 pm
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Yep. JAL will hit Boeing for penalties which they will then shift to GE.