dhuey

No, I am suggesting that you will not see any reports about anti-TSA material in the suspect's possession prior to 11:10 am PDT on the morning of the incident. You will, however, see reports claiming he was a former TSA agent prior to that time.

iahphx

I find it interesting how little interest the media -- and everyone else -- seems to have in this story 3 days later. Just another crazy guy with a gun, so we'll all just move on.

I suppose that's better than the alternative: like making airport entrances supermax facilities. On the other hand, perhaps we should be having a national discussion about mental illness and guns. I guess that's a hard discussion to have, so we'll all just ignore it.

Ancien Maestro

My brother's flight was postponed, and then rescheduled for today. A backlog because of the shooting, I was told. But should arrive 5 PM MST. I guess the highway was completely blocked off following the incident, and my brother wasn't able to get to the LAX airport that day.

shnewton1

At some point I hope there is an investigation into the logistics after the incident was resolved. I was detained in Tom Bradley baggage claim until 3:30. Then after being released from baggage claim we were held in the arrival area. Finally when we were released from the terminal there were no transportation options. Finally after 2 hours from being released outside did the car rental busses and taxis begin running. Why were they not able to think about this in the 5 hours we were held from the time of the shooting. As far as I understand Century Blvd and Sepulveda were closed until around 8:00 p.m. Was this really required to preserve the crime scene inside T3. Seems to me that LAX does not have very good plans for management of major incidents.

Ancien Maestro

Flight delayed 2 and half hours tonite from LAX. My brother, his wife and 4 kids are back safe and sound. My parents had to use two vehicles to pick their family up as they pack so many bags, and they brought 4 heavy duty Britax type car seats.

I would say this was not the typical LAX trip for my brother's family. Hopefully, LAX is back to normal for a long time.

SeriouslyLost

The bigger the show the bigger the budgets next year and the more TV time everyone can get. Seriously.

GUWonder

I expect that law enforcement would pretty quickly consider whether or not the killer was a former or current TSA employee when the targets were TSA employees. "Going postal" considerations are rather routine approaches for law enforcement lines of investigation -- especially as he's neither "brown" nor "muslim".

I am not so sure about the accuracy of your first sentence above, which then may place into doubt the utility of your second sentence.

Do you consider a reported speculation about possible employment history to be the same as a reported claim that leaves no room for doubt about the employment history? Either way, it wouldn't surprise me if some media outlet took someone or some other media outlet's reported speculative claim and converted it into some other kind of claim that misrepresented his employment history. But that doesn't mean there weren't reports before that about him possessing an anti-TSA and anti-Napolitano rant.

Even if this were only about media reports -- and not intra-government reports as well -- I doubt that even the full media reporting on the attack and the timeline is fully known by anyone at this point.

How long was it between (a) the time when this terrorist was identified by name and (b) the time when the media named him and had mistakenly associated him with a TSA employment history? Between the two, hadn't his possessions at the airport already been searched to some extent and his "anti-government" rant discovered?

dhuey

Yes, well, see if you can find any reports about anti-TSA material in the suspect's possession prior to 11:10 am PDT on the morning of the incident. You won't find any.

I don't claim to know the timing of other things you mention. I'm comparing two things: the timing of reports that this was a former TSA agent, and reports about anti-government propaganda in the suspect's possession. The former preceded the latter by several hours.

Ancien Maestro

Had lunch with my brother today and it was a schmaul (is that a word?), to say the least. Twice he had to turn back on the day of his return flight at LAX when the incident occured, and his return leg yesterday was delayed. Won't affect his trips going forward. Condolences to the TSA agent who was just doing his job.

Just glad everyone is back safe and sound.

Sorthum

I'm surprised that there are still delays; I flew out of Terminal 7 on Sunday with no issue. Is it just terminal 3 that's still impacted?

Ancien Maestro

My brother flew out of Terminal 2. He rebooked for a flight 3 days later because the flights were full coming back to YYC.

FTcadence

The family of Gerardo Hernandez, the TSA agent who was shot and killed at LAX, have filed a $25M lawsuit against the airport, the city of Los Angeles, LAPD, LAFD, other agencies, and L.A County. The suit alleges that medical care was delayed due to security lapses and that that directly contributed to Hernandez' suffering and death.

http://ktla.com/2014/10/08/family-of...or-25-million/

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2014/...iles-25m-suit/

Boggie Dog

Old thread but our courts move like glaciers. The LAX shooter gets life in prison. Should have been a death sentence in my opinion.