Flight length & sleep
#1
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Join Date: Sep 2005
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Flight length & sleep
I've recently been thinking about flight length in relation to sleep and fatigue/exhaustion. Here are a couple of example flights:
A flight from New York to London takes about 7 hours. If it departs at 11 pm New York time, it arrives at 11 am London time.
A flight from Rio de Janeiro to London takes about 11 hours. If it departs at 11 pm Rio time, it arrives at 2 pm London time.
Now, my mom and I have a disagreement as to which flight would leave one more exhausted. My mom thinks that since the quality of sleep in-flight is inferior to that in a regular residence, the shorter flight would allow her to get better quality sleep in a regular bed quicker than the longer flight. On the other hand, I tend to think that the shorter flight allows for less time to sleep, thereby making one more exhausted/fatigued upon arrival compared to the longer flight.
Who do you think has a stronger argument here?
A flight from New York to London takes about 7 hours. If it departs at 11 pm New York time, it arrives at 11 am London time.
A flight from Rio de Janeiro to London takes about 11 hours. If it departs at 11 pm Rio time, it arrives at 2 pm London time.
Now, my mom and I have a disagreement as to which flight would leave one more exhausted. My mom thinks that since the quality of sleep in-flight is inferior to that in a regular residence, the shorter flight would allow her to get better quality sleep in a regular bed quicker than the longer flight. On the other hand, I tend to think that the shorter flight allows for less time to sleep, thereby making one more exhausted/fatigued upon arrival compared to the longer flight.
Who do you think has a stronger argument here?
#2

Join Date: Aug 2005
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TATL flights in the 6 to 7 hour range are brutal. Very little opportunity for sleep, and you arrive in the morning basically exhausted when everybody else is waking up. I much prefer a longer TATL flight. Last one I took was IAH-FRA, and I thought that was just about the right length.
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Flight length & sleep
Go agree. The longer flights are better as you have more time to sleep. The only TATL short flight I didn't mind left NYC in am and arrived in London pm so I could go to bed right away rather than struggle through the whole day exhausted. Of course, a whole day was shot.
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I also agree. I'd rather have flights up to 6 hours, or above 10 hours. It's impossible to relax on the east coast>europe flights.
Also, I found that my KIX-IST overnight (departure ~22:00, arrival around 05:00, duration about 12 hrs) was also very good as far as getting me the needed sleep.
The only counterargument I have is that on an AUH-FCO 6-hour flight that I took in January, I slept for maybe 5.5 of those 6 hours and was feeling quite refreshed in FCO. The flight departed AUH at 3AM, so maybe that's why I fell straight asleep as soon as we were wheels up.
Also, I found that my KIX-IST overnight (departure ~22:00, arrival around 05:00, duration about 12 hrs) was also very good as far as getting me the needed sleep.
The only counterargument I have is that on an AUH-FCO 6-hour flight that I took in January, I slept for maybe 5.5 of those 6 hours and was feeling quite refreshed in FCO. The flight departed AUH at 3AM, so maybe that's why I fell straight asleep as soon as we were wheels up.
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Flight length & sleep
Want exhaustion? Try 5 hr red-eye to West Coast from Hawaii, followed by another flight to the final destination. Best 2nd flight: 10.5 hours to FRA in F.
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IMHO opinion, the only flight worse that east coast to Europe is an early-mid afternoon departure, DFW to Europe. It leaves too early to get any sleep, and then still gets to Europe early in the AM.
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I tend to agree. But for those of us on the east coast, there's no real alternative unless you want to loose a whole day. I try to take the last flight out, thereby getting into LHR as late as possible. I find it's much easier to stay energized after the flight from 10-2000 as opposed landing at 6. Those four hours make a HUGE difference IMO.
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Flight length & sleep
I think it depends in part on the class in which you are sitting. Being in coach will be difficult to sleep no matter which option you pick.
#12




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Actually, believe it or not, some of the best sleep that I've had was in coach, rather than biz in some cases. It really depends on how tired I am and how close to bed time the departure time is.
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