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Old May 12, 2013, 9:07 am
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Why do Airbus Jets Vibrate so Badly on Takeoff?

I have been wondering about this for some time, but flew from LAX-BWI last night on an Airbus 320 and experienced some of the worst vibration on liftoff that I can recall, which is what brought it to mind today. Why is that? Boeing and the old McDonnell Douglas jets don't seem to do it, so what makes Airbus jets different?
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Old May 12, 2013, 9:34 am
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Why do Airbus Jets Vibrate so Badly on Takeoff?

And why do they have that horrible sawing noise after engines shut down
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Old May 12, 2013, 10:02 am
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And why do they have that horrible sawing noise after engines shut down
It's the hydraulic system:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_transfer_unit

(Many posts also here on FT about it, but that came up first.)
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Old May 12, 2013, 10:30 am
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I believe vibrations can be from the gear being retracted while the wheels are still spinning.
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Why do Airbus Jets Vibrate so Badly on Takeoff?

I've thought about the wheels as being the likely explanation. Does airbus design the retraction mechanism differently than Boeing where maybe the wheels are not stopped from spinning right away? Or is there some other reason?
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It's the hydraulic system:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_transfer_unit

(Many posts also here on FT about it, but that came up first.)
Always wondered about that myself.
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Dunno what makes them different but the vibration on take-off is due to the wheels vibrating as they are still spinning. The main wheels, like on Boeings etc..., are stopped from spinning by the brakes before they are pulled up into the wheel wells. Nose gear's, on all types, tend not to have braking.
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And why do they have that horrible sawing noise after engines shut down
AKA "barking dog". It doesn't instill confidence.

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LAX-BWI is a longer flight on the A320/A319 type. It likely could have been pretty heavy with payload and fuel for the long flight. The higher weight means a higher takeoff speed and longer takeoff roll. The vibration can come from the needs to accelerate to a high takeoff speeds and felt more due to the longer takeoff roll.

Ive done many an Airbus flight in both the flight deck and in a passenger seat. It is not better or worse than any other aircraft in any metric. Like any aircraft, it has its quirks though.
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Old May 12, 2013, 6:34 pm
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LAX-BWI is a longer flight on the A320/A319 type. It likely could have been pretty heavy with payload and fuel for the long flight. The higher weight means a higher takeoff speed and longer takeoff roll. The vibration can come from the needs to accelerate to a high takeoff speeds and felt more due to the longer takeoff roll.

Ive done many an Airbus flight in both the flight deck and in a passenger seat. It is not better or worse than any other aircraft in any metric. Like any aircraft, it has its quirks though.
I take this flight every week and they just switched from a 737/800-900 to the Airbus 320 last week and you're right.....it's a extremely long taxi with increased acceleration and last night I actually thought we were going to run out of runway! Then, the plane pulls up and all of a sudden you get that horrible vibration. The taxi was probably the same on the 737, but at least the pull-up was smooth so you didn't notice it as much or elevate the anxiety level. In fact, it's an 11PM red eye and I'm usually asleep by takeoff, but the vibration actually woke me up last week and last night I was drifting off as the taxi began and was wide eyed by the time we pulled up and started the shimmy.
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Old Apr 5, 2015, 7:28 pm
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This is one of the reasons I prefer Boeing planes and only book tickets on Airbus planes if I must.
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Originally Posted by chris19992
This is one of the reasons I prefer Boeing planes and only book tickets on Airbus planes if I must.
Funny, I find my experiences on A380s to be vastly superior to ANY Boeing product. I find them much, much quieter and less fatiguing.
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Old Apr 5, 2015, 9:11 pm
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I agree too that it seems like the wheels rotating. Fells and sounds like when you manually spin a bicycle aid wheel that kids have on their bikes.
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Funny, I find my experiences on A380s to be vastly superior to ANY Boeing product. I find them much, much quieter and less fatiguing.
To be fair, the A380 is a newer, clean sheet design than just about everything Boeing builds besides the 787. It should have a quieter cabin and better cabin pressure than a late 80s era 747-400 or an early 80s era 767-300.
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Old Apr 6, 2015, 1:36 am
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Originally Posted by mikekelley
Funny, I find my experiences on A380s to be vastly superior to ANY Boeing product. I find them much, much quieter and less fatiguing.
I guess we all have our preferences and while admittedly I didn't experience the vibration on the a380 I much prefer to book the 777, I'm a sucker for the noise of those engines.
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