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Dan1113 Oct 12, 2013 9:16 am

I'd love to try the 787 (still need to try the a380!) as the thought of trying new planes like that is very exciting, and usually the whole 'avoid x plane due to x incident' thoughts I find quite silly...but I'll admit, I am avoiding the 787 for now as I simply don't trust it.

Firewind Oct 16, 2013 3:31 am

Oh my...
 
http://seattletimes.com/html/busines...rindiaxml.html

Firewind Oct 16, 2013 3:35 am

"Pumped," in advance of receiving third 787, Norwegian Air's CEO says he's still a believer...

http://news.yahoo.com/norwegian-air-...Rjb2xvA2FjNA--

Firewind Oct 16, 2013 3:50 am

Meanwhile, Poland's treasury minister begins to quantify the cost...

http://news.yahoo.com/poland-determi...--finance.html

Firewind Oct 22, 2013 6:46 am

http://seattletimes.com/html/busines...repairxml.html

Looks as though it's going to be a long process before the Ethiopian Airlines plane is back in commercial service. Just as well. But does it give you comfort seeing language by the Boeing leaker indicating that the course chosen is because to do it differently, "... would have been even more trouble..."?


A different Boeing engineer, who is an expert in composite repairs, said putting in the patch will be complex and difficult.

But he said it would have been even more trouble to take the other approach — disconnecting all the wiring, air and fuel systems and then inserting a full fuselage section that would mesh exactly with the section in front of it and the tail behind it.

The Boeing engineer with knowledge of the repair preparations said the company will gain valuable experience from this repair of a major composite skin section.

“Chances are there’ll be issues along the way as they figure out their expertise,” he said. “It’s all brand new ground.”

University of Washington professor Mark Tuttle, director of UW’s Center of Excellence for Advanced Materials in Transport Aircraft Structures, said proving a bonded repair is sound can be difficult.

“One issue with adhesive bonding is you can inspect the bond with ultrasonic inspection and find no gaps or voids, but nevertheless the strength of the bond is lower than anticipated,” he said.
I suggest that it would have been much more comforting to hear a different justification from Boeing for the approach taken at this point in the development of the 787. Even if there's the plausible deniablity of it being from a leaker. He might have said that it's the sounder one, and left it at that. Sometimes public affairs doesn't get into the game in time when a technical guy starts to speak.

Firewind Oct 23, 2013 6:21 am

The article has been re-worked with additional spokesmen ringing in...

http://seattletimes.com/html/busines...repairxml.html

Firewind Oct 27, 2013 7:53 am

Recycling 787s
 
For when the 787 really goes to ground...

http://seattletimes.com/html/busines...buzz27xml.html

Firewind Nov 24, 2013 12:33 am

New 787 restriction, or "Fire and (now) Ice" ...

"...Aircraft with the affected engines - GE's GEnx - must not be flown within 50 nautical miles of thunderstorms that may contain ice crystals..." So JAL has taken it off some routes. The article says Boeing says it's a software problem.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2013/1...0J805W20131123

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-25068222

http://www.chinapost.com.tw/business...eing-warns.htm

http://www.cnbc.com/id/101223041

Firewind Nov 24, 2013 12:39 am

Meanwhile, we see with all the news about the Dreamlifter that landed at the wrong airport that Boeing actually had the wherewithal to fly in a fuselage section, instead of just a patch, for the Ethiopian aircraft that had the fire.

ft101 Nov 24, 2013 4:08 am


Originally Posted by Firewind (Post 21842783)
Meanwhile, we see with all the news about the Dreamlifter that landed at the wrong airport that Boeing actually had the wherewithal to fly in a fuselage section, instead of just a patch, for the Ethiopian aircraft that had the fire.

I hadn't heard about that and the recent photos I've seen only show a small area covered as if it's being patched.

Do you have a source/reference?

Firewind Nov 24, 2013 6:00 am

https://www.google.com/search?q=Drea...sm=93&ie=UTF-8

...Especially, the Wikipedia entry that follows the stories about the recent mistake.

ft101 Nov 24, 2013 6:58 am


Originally Posted by ft101 (Post 21843296)
I hadn't heard about that and the recent photos I've seen only show a small area covered as if it's being patched.

Do you have a source/reference?


Originally Posted by Firewind (Post 21843627)
https://www.google.com/search?q=Drea...sm=93&ie=UTF-8

...Especially, the Wikipedia entry that follows the stories about the recent mistake.

Your Google link is to Dreamlifter results. I was hoping for a link to something regarding the repair of the Ethiopian Airlines B787 Dreamliner.

Firewind Nov 24, 2013 7:39 am


Originally Posted by ft101 (Post 21843821)
Your Google link is to Dreamlifter results. I was hoping for a link to something regarding the repair of the Ethiopian Airlines B787 Dreamliner.

http://seattletimes.com/html/busines...repairxml.html

Carry on. :)

ft101 Nov 24, 2013 7:49 am


Originally Posted by Firewind (Post 21844024)

The article states the repair is being made using a patch, not a fuselage section as you stated a few posts back.

Firewind Nov 24, 2013 7:56 am

I think I said that it turns out they could have flown in a fuselage section instead of putting a patch on it. :)


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