Connection: Train or Flight?
Oct 29, 2012 | 2:59 pm
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untill waiting Sheikh Yerbootyreply,
i would add that i can also fly from
LH: BLQ (1 stop) to GVA for 65 Eur , but these are 2 separate flights....
so if the 1st flight delays, i will lost the 2nd flight! the only advantage in this case would be mileage earning and low price (+ LH network, but no connection guarantee between these 2 LH flights!)
i would add that i can also fly from
LH: BLQ (1 stop) to GVA for 65 Eur , but these are 2 separate flights....
so if the 1st flight delays, i will lost the 2nd flight! the only advantage in this case would be mileage earning and low price (+ LH network, but no connection guarantee between these 2 LH flights!)
Oct 29, 2012 | 5:09 pm
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I doubt there's a web site with on-time statistics, but I'm sure if you google around you can find someone's story about taking the train, how or if it failed, etc
Oct 30, 2012 | 2:17 am
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Don't know if you were checking prices for a Ferrari, but if so more power to your elbow.
In the mean time, a quick check of sixt.de reveals you can get a Mercedes C-class for 110 Euro or, if you fancy something a bit less posh, a Citroen C3 for 55. And that's for a one-way rental at Venice train station to Geneva airport.
In the mean time, a quick check of sixt.de reveals you can get a Mercedes C-class for 110 Euro or, if you fancy something a bit less posh, a Citroen C3 for 55. And that's for a one-way rental at Venice train station to Geneva airport.
In any case... since the OP is travelling in winter, and is already expressing concerns about possible weather problems, I don't think car hire is really a good option.
Oct 30, 2012 | 4:06 am
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That's most unusual. I've never come across a European car hire firm that did NOT charge a hefty premium for one-way cross-border rental.
In any case... since the OP is travelling in winter, and is already expressing concerns about possible weather problems, I don't think car hire is really a good option.
In any case... since the OP is travelling in winter, and is already expressing concerns about possible weather problems, I don't think car hire is really a good option.
Oct 30, 2012 | 4:12 am
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I was thinking the "main" flight (out of GVA) was longhaul/expensive since you're trying hard to make it. If it's not, then I'd stick with the train, which is the cheapest option. The train also has much better options for service recovery if something happens (as opposed to easyjet, which either flies, or not)
I doubt there's a web site with on-time statistics, but I'm sure if you google around you can find someone's story about taking the train, how or if it failed, etc
I doubt there's a web site with on-time statistics, but I'm sure if you google around you can find someone's story about taking the train, how or if it failed, etc
) with 1 connection; about it, they are 2 single flight with 4h connection in TXL (LH has a big netowrk in case of cancellation..but in this case not for delays because these are single flights, booked separately so if 2st flight is cancelled, i will lost everything!)i would also consider that i can make an insurance for loss of connection flights (e.g. if i choose U2, and it will be cancelled, i've 2.000Euro insurance coverage), but ,you know, 2000Eur for a long haul flight, booked some our before departure are less than real price!
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Oct 30, 2012 | 5:32 am
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i would also consider that usually, U2 is pretty on time:
http://www.flightstats.com/go/Flight...irportCode=GVA
also compared with LX:
http://www.flightstats.com/go/Flight...yCarrier=false
http://www.flightstats.com/go/Flight...irportCode=GVA
also compared with LX:
http://www.flightstats.com/go/Flight...yCarrier=false
Oct 30, 2012 | 6:14 am
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Oct 30, 2012 | 6:16 am
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Where is the OP travelling from?
Is it London ("Train is at 4pm and arrive in Ginevra Central Station at 11pm" matches with the time Eurostar + TGV would take, but not exactly the train times), or somewhere in CH? I can't think of anywhere in CH that is 7 hours by train from Geneva. Anyway, if you do seriously plan to do London to Geneva by train, then I would encourage you to allow a generous gap for crossing Paris
The other mysterious thing in your post is "suisse High speed train". If my Eurostar + TGV supposition is correct, then fair enough. I have my suspicions that you might be referring to travel from somewhere in Italy to Geneva, on train EC42. In which case, beware that these (former?) "Cisalpino" services have a reputation for poor reliability, faults, breakdowns, poor cleaning and minimal catering. I would definitely not rely on getting to Geneva on one of them!
Is it London ("Train is at 4pm and arrive in Ginevra Central Station at 11pm" matches with the time Eurostar + TGV would take, but not exactly the train times), or somewhere in CH? I can't think of anywhere in CH that is 7 hours by train from Geneva. Anyway, if you do seriously plan to do London to Geneva by train, then I would encourage you to allow a generous gap for crossing Paris
The other mysterious thing in your post is "suisse High speed train". If my Eurostar + TGV supposition is correct, then fair enough. I have my suspicions that you might be referring to travel from somewhere in Italy to Geneva, on train EC42. In which case, beware that these (former?) "Cisalpino" services have a reputation for poor reliability, faults, breakdowns, poor cleaning and minimal catering. I would definitely not rely on getting to Geneva on one of them!
Oct 30, 2012 | 7:00 am
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furthermore train changing in Milan costs >100 Eur, so in that case i would consider LH!
So i think the 3 possibilities are:
1) U2 VCE - GVA=65 EUR and pretty on time everytime: http://www.flightstats.com/go/Flight...irportCode=GVA __Fastest, mid-price compared, risk 40%(?!)
2) 2 x LH=88EUR with 4h connection time gap in Germany (not guarantee, because separate bookings) but with LH netowork possibilities in case of cancellations; furthermore mileage earning on M&M! __mid-fast, mid-price compared, connection, risk 40% ?!
3) Venice-Geneva Central Station= 29 EUR + Geneva Central St. - GVA (=bus or train 2 EUR) __slow, no stops, low price compared, risk 50% ?!
4)Venice-Milano Centrale Station + Milano Centrale Station - Geneva + Geneva Central St. - GVA= 28EUR + 2 EUR bus
and I should arrive in Geneva at 4pm, so 18h gap about !!
(New one i've found) __slow, change, lowest price compared, risk 30% (many connections possibilities in Milan)
but about the train service: high risk of strikes+high delays in case of snow!
which?!
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Nov 6, 2012 | 5:04 am
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That's a non stop train, safer because i do not have to change others train (particularly in case of delays..)
furthermore train changing in Milan costs >100 Eur, so in that case i would consider LH!
So i think the 3 possibilities are:
1) U2 VCE - GVA=65 EUR and pretty on time everytime: http://www.flightstats.com/go/Flight...irportCode=GVA __Fastest, mid-price compared, risk 40%(?!)
2) 2 x LH=88EUR with 4h connection time gap in Germany (not guarantee, because separate bookings) but with LH netowork possibilities in case of cancellations; furthermore mileage earning on M&M! __mid-fast, mid-price compared, connection, risk 40% ?!
3) Venice-Geneva Central Station= 29 EUR + Geneva Central St. - GVA (=bus or train 2 EUR) __slow, no stops, low price compared, risk 50% ?!
4)Venice-Milano Centrale Station + Milano Centrale Station - Geneva + Geneva Central St. - GVA= 28EUR + 2 EUR bus
and I should arrive in Geneva at 4pm, so 18h gap about !!
(New one i've found) __slow, change, lowest price compared, risk 30% (many connections possibilities in Milan)
but about the train service: high risk of strikes+high delays in case of snow!
which?!
furthermore train changing in Milan costs >100 Eur, so in that case i would consider LH!
So i think the 3 possibilities are:
1) U2 VCE - GVA=65 EUR and pretty on time everytime: http://www.flightstats.com/go/Flight...irportCode=GVA __Fastest, mid-price compared, risk 40%(?!)
2) 2 x LH=88EUR with 4h connection time gap in Germany (not guarantee, because separate bookings) but with LH netowork possibilities in case of cancellations; furthermore mileage earning on M&M! __mid-fast, mid-price compared, connection, risk 40% ?!
3) Venice-Geneva Central Station= 29 EUR + Geneva Central St. - GVA (=bus or train 2 EUR) __slow, no stops, low price compared, risk 50% ?!
4)Venice-Milano Centrale Station + Milano Centrale Station - Geneva + Geneva Central St. - GVA= 28EUR + 2 EUR bus
and I should arrive in Geneva at 4pm, so 18h gap about !!
(New one i've found) __slow, change, lowest price compared, risk 30% (many connections possibilities in Milan)
but about the train service: high risk of strikes+high delays in case of snow!
which?!
Nov 6, 2012 | 10:03 am
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4)Venice-Milano Centrale Station + Milano Centrale Station - Geneva + Geneva Central St. - GVA= 28EUR + 2 EUR bus
and I should arrive in Geneva at 4pm, so 18h gap about !!
(New one i've found) __slow, change, lowest price compared, risk 30% (many connections possibilities in Milan)
and I should arrive in Geneva at 4pm, so 18h gap about !!
(New one i've found) __slow, change, lowest price compared, risk 30% (many connections possibilities in Milan)
Neil
Nov 6, 2012 | 3:46 pm
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obv. problem persists if bad weather conditions afflict the Alps during that days..
Nov 7, 2012 | 6:40 am
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Having chosen and booked option 4, I would stop worrying.
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Dec 8, 2012 | 3:43 pm
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a little late on this but you could have gotten from VCE to LYS cheaply, slept overnight in LYS which is cheaper than GVA, taken the 630 AM train departure from LYS which arrives in GVA around 9 am. I think I am taking the same flt in Dec and getting there by train. LYS doesn't get hit as hard as GVA can by snow. I live in downtown LYS and we could have a lively discussion about MR.