Commuting by plane - advice needed
#16
Join Date: Nov 2006
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I'm considering a position in Paris. I live not far from Birmingham. There are multiple daily flights although I'd be in Paris 3 days per week, tue to thurs or something.
Having worked from home for many years I'm a bit nervous about taking on that commute.
Some things I'm wondering:
- How much before your flight do you arrive at the airport. Doing my holiday 1.5 hour wait twice per week would be a pain!
Having worked from home for many years I'm a bit nervous about taking on that commute.
Some things I'm wondering:
- How much before your flight do you arrive at the airport. Doing my holiday 1.5 hour wait twice per week would be a pain!
- Do you have to book flights individually or can you block book, like a travel card?
- How bad is a commute like that? Does it get you down? Is the time away from kids productive for sorting out other things?
- Is it better to fly early before work like 6am or last thing at night and go the night before?
Neil
#17
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Forgot to add that I am now commuting 90 minutes each way every day – by car. Frankly I’d swap it for an arrangement like the one you are proposing in a heartbeat. But then I don’t have children and my husband is away 3 days a week himself!
#18
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do not let your management/company read this. if they have/had any common sense, they'd fire you before the sun went down. daily 2 or 3 hr each way commutes are the order of the day for a significant percentage of the working population here in dc. i presume it is the same in many metropolitan areas.
The usual in the UK would be 30-45 minutes in most cases, not usually over an hour. And very long daily commutes are neither good for the environment nor for the individual's health.
Neil
#19
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I would, and in fact when working at our base office do, choose a 2.5 hour cross-London train journey at twice the cost to avoid doing a 1.5 hour car commute. I made that decision after a narrowly avoided accident (avoided by the other driver's actions, would have been caused by mine) which resulted from me "autopiloting" because of the tiredness that amounts up with an early start and spending those 90 minutes trying to be attentive.
Neil
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Even in my office in London, I'd say I'm one of the few commuting over 1h (generally 1h-1h15) - and that's for a 50-mile train/bicycle journey. Personally, I wouldn't like to do much more than that, and certainly not on a form of transport where I couldn't read for the bulk of it - life's just too short. I do realise that now's not a great time to be overly picky, however...
To the OP - only you can figure out what your time means to you.
Personally, I've done LCY-AMS for 3-day-week stints and loved it (single, good friends with my colleagues) and done LHR-OSL for 5-day-week stints (married, variable relationship with colleagues) and hated it. I wouldn't go back to that kind of travel again now I'm married, and have specifically sought out work that has the right balance of home/travel time for me now. But I can't tell you what the right balance is for you.
Another consideration - it sounds like you're paying for your flights. Realistically, if you add all that up - and accommodation too? Extra food costs if you don't have cooking facilities? - how worthwhile is the remaining salary? Make sure you do the sums properly, too - see what flight costs are at the time you'll be travelling, with the kind of advance booking you can manage.
Finally, how well do you know France? It's a very different working culture to the UK - some good and bad points - and it takes some time and mutual understanding to adapt (particularly if there's a language barrier - I don't know if there is in your case).
To the OP - only you can figure out what your time means to you.
Personally, I've done LCY-AMS for 3-day-week stints and loved it (single, good friends with my colleagues) and done LHR-OSL for 5-day-week stints (married, variable relationship with colleagues) and hated it. I wouldn't go back to that kind of travel again now I'm married, and have specifically sought out work that has the right balance of home/travel time for me now. But I can't tell you what the right balance is for you.
Another consideration - it sounds like you're paying for your flights. Realistically, if you add all that up - and accommodation too? Extra food costs if you don't have cooking facilities? - how worthwhile is the remaining salary? Make sure you do the sums properly, too - see what flight costs are at the time you'll be travelling, with the kind of advance booking you can manage.
Finally, how well do you know France? It's a very different working culture to the UK - some good and bad points - and it takes some time and mutual understanding to adapt (particularly if there's a language barrier - I don't know if there is in your case).
#22
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Join Date: Oct 2012
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Thanks to everyone for your advice. It seems like it's doable for a while. My plan would be this:
fly to paris on a Monday night, Fly back on Thurs night. Yes I pay/book everything myself, flights are about 150 return. Hotels are about 70 per night. So that lifestyle would cost me about 360 + food per week. It's within budget.
Eventually I would move to Paris for a year or so, but I imagine I'll be commuting for 4-6 months.
fly to paris on a Monday night, Fly back on Thurs night. Yes I pay/book everything myself, flights are about 150 return. Hotels are about 70 per night. So that lifestyle would cost me about 360 + food per week. It's within budget.
Eventually I would move to Paris for a year or so, but I imagine I'll be commuting for 4-6 months.
#24
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Interesting, never thought about that. I just tried a couple of searches on Flybe and they work out the same as the other way round - but it's a handy tip!
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Significant? Even Richmond, lots of WV, and Baltimore are under two hours. I don't think a "significant" group of DC-workers commute further than that. In all my years of working in DC, I think the number of people I've known with a 2+ hour commute is less than 5.
#28
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Try here: http://matrix.itasoftware.com/ I just tried a random date, and the cheapest flight was on AF (though one leg operated by flybe) and it had a Saturday night stay requirement.
Neil
#29
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Worth your while checking whether this is the case year-round before committing to anything; if you find a hotel you like, it's also worth trying to negotiate a discount with them given that you'll be staying with them quite a lot.
Either way... Priceline, Hotwire, and biddingfortravel/betterbidding etc are your friends.
Either way... Priceline, Hotwire, and biddingfortravel/betterbidding etc are your friends.
#30
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Booked one or two months in advance, I tend to get around the 50-80 mark one way in summer, but base fares 19/29 (from/to UK due to APD) very often in winter.
Neil

