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Old Aug 28, 2012 | 12:53 pm
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Originally Posted by cdn1
Fear mongering is a great success story in the USA. It works 100% of the time.

The masses (minus the sensible people) will give up anything in the name of 'security'.

For how many decades will they milk this "9/11" thing? Doubt if they will ever give an answer to that one, EH....

Airline pilots in the US are scary chickens it seems. Even a shirt or boobs scare them, they won't be able to focus on the autopilot run flights anymore!

Yet another reason for people to avoid US. Spend the money in more sensible countries.
Envy is a powerful thing. Makes people say very ridiculous things.
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Old Aug 28, 2012 | 1:43 pm
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Originally Posted by serioustraveler

He got detained because he set out to provoke the people that would detain him, he set out to provoke the FA and pilot and anyone and everyone he could because he's a social media Twat.

People like him and the lady with cleavage intentionally go out of their way to start a scene and then act shocked when they're denied boarding.

They do it to get a rise out of people and to garner sympathy from other social media twats and to hurt businesses for the sake of hurting them.
Wearing a t-shirt with a slogan to provoke a pilot?
Wearing a t-shirt with a slogan to provoke a security screener?
Wearing a t-shirt with a slogan to garner sympathy on the internet?
and I love this one
Wearing a t-shirt with a slogan to hurt business?

And each of these is sufficient to deny boarding.

I am glad I don't live in your country!

Because, I think that you seriously believe the dribble.
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Old Aug 28, 2012 | 6:26 pm
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Originally Posted by serioustraveler
...People like him and the lady with cleavage intentionally go out of their way to start a scene and then act shocked when they're denied boarding.

They do it to get a rise out of people and to garner sympathy from other social media twats and to hurt businesses for the sake of hurting them.

We all know THOSE type of people that go out of their way to make life miserable for everyone around them in order to get attention. Hell I'm willing to bet a bunch of posters here will respond to defend that type of stuff.
I respond merely to say that we don't actually know any of that about these people. Jump to conclusions much?
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Old Aug 28, 2012 | 11:36 pm
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Originally Posted by KurtVH
Envy is a powerful thing. Makes people say very ridiculous things.
I see absolutely no reason why someone from Canada would envy someone from the US.

People are at least as nice as over in the US, the country is at least as beautiful and even bigger. On top of that they got the better education system, the higher standard of living, the higher human development index, the higher life expectancy, lower crime rates (especially those pesky shootings with legally acquired guns), lower incarceration rates and no death penalty. As far as I can tell Canada has the better electoral system, a higher nominal GDP combined with a lower per capita carbon footprint, less racism, less bigotry, less enemies, less natural catastrophes and people (even Americans) have suggested that Americans pose as Canadians when abroad because they would be better liked.

But, of course, you knew all that.

Thus it is probably not very sensible to presume a Canadian envies the US.

I am still laughing.

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Old Aug 29, 2012 | 10:11 am
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Originally Posted by tfar
I see absolutely no reason why someone from Canada would envy someone from the US.

People are at least as nice as over in the US, the country is at least as beautiful and even bigger. On top of that they got the better education system, the higher standard of living, the higher human development index, the higher life expectancy, lower crime rates (especially those pesky shootings with legally acquired guns), lower incarceration rates and no death penalty. As far as I can tell Canada has the better electoral system, a higher nominal GDP combined with a lower per capita carbon footprint, less racism, less bigotry, less enemies, less natural catastrophes and people (even Americans) have suggested that Americans pose as Canadians when abroad because they would be better liked.

But, of course, you knew all that.

Thus it is probably not very sensible to presume a Canadian envies the US.

I am still laughing.

Till
This isn't the place for a refutation of either your post or cdn1's. My first post was intended as a reasonably good natured response to his/her obnoxious and offensive post. Same thing here (though yours is neither obnoxious nor offensive). Continue if you wish but I won't respond.

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Old Aug 29, 2012 | 9:34 pm
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Originally Posted by tfar
I see absolutely no reason why someone from Canada would envy someone from the US.

People are at least as nice as over in the US, the country is at least as beautiful and even bigger. On top of that they got the better education system, the higher standard of living, the higher human development index, the higher life expectancy, lower crime rates (especially those pesky shootings with legally acquired guns), lower incarceration rates and no death penalty. As far as I can tell Canada has the better electoral system, a higher nominal GDP combined with a lower per capita carbon footprint, less racism, less bigotry, less enemies, less natural catastrophes and people (even Americans) have suggested that Americans pose as Canadians when abroad because they would be better liked.

But, of course, you knew all that.

Thus it is probably not very sensible to presume a Canadian envies the US.

I am still laughing.

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And this response has won the Internet, ladies and gentlemen.

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Old Aug 30, 2012 | 3:44 pm
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Originally Posted by cdn1
Yet another reason for people to avoid US. Spend the money in more sensible countries.
There are no sensible countries, there are only sensible individuals and they're becoming rarer and rarer nowadays.



Originally Posted by seanthepilot
And each of these is sufficient to deny boarding.

I am glad I don't live in your country!

Because, I think that you seriously believe the dribble.
What, your country demands that businesses allow people even if they're being total twats?

I'm glad you don't live in my country too! God forbid companies deny service to people that are disruptive or that set out to be combative.

I believe businesses should be allowed to deny service to abrasive "customers" as long as they aren't discriminating on the basis of race,sexual orientation, gender, religion, or other protected classes.
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Old Sep 1, 2012 | 1:00 am
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Originally Posted by serioustraveler

I believe businesses should be allowed to deny service to abrasive "customers" as long as they aren't discriminating on the basis of race,sexual orientation, gender, religion, or other protected classes.
The question is then of how thin skinned a business can be and of how this relates to the overall culture of the country the business comes from. The further question is then whether the thin skin comes from a deserved or undeserved inferiority complex, a cultural tendency of extremism or a hysterical fear of terrorism caused by cultural and geographical isolation and lack of education.

Finally, the question is whether said business is still a private business if it fulfills a privatized public transport function with no true, real public alternatives but bailed out from bankruptcy with public money.

If somebody wants to make a fool of himself in a privately owned restaurant or car dealership, give him/her the boot. No problem. An airline is a different deal.

Too much arbitrary power in the hands of uniformed people with little training and below average education (not true for all flight attendants and gate agents but there is a reason they aren't university professors or scientists) is a dangerous thing.

I would have taken strictly zero offense with the cleavage and none with the t-shirt. The young man with the pants at his knees, well that's how he likes to look. His loss. Not my business. As long as their genitals aren't showing and they don't stink (this includes stinky feet in open shoes of otherwise respectably dressed pax), they should be able to fly.

But here an FA probably felt disadvantaged in terms of cleavage and a pilot, to whom this must have been reported, acquiesced probably to the fears of those beneath him to keep the calm in the case of the t-shirt. However, there are no rules on the book and too much discretion is given to people with too little intelligence to decide these matters in a discretionary manner.

Same goes for TSA.

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Old Sep 1, 2012 | 6:02 am
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Originally Posted by cdn1

Airline pilots in the US are scary chickens it seems.
Glad I won't have to read your drivel again.
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