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dolcevita Jul 15, 2012 5:38 pm


Originally Posted by peachfront (Post 18932875)
I'm surprised that only happened to you once. It is a very common scam to try to get you to switch into a middle seat with the excuse of, "Wouldn't you like to sit next to your friend?" Since I always pick an aisle seat, I get asked to swap all the time. And, yes, I'm tired of it. It is not like only one person, once in a while, asks. It is that I am constantly asked, probably because I'm small. I don't feel like answering the same question multiple times. The answer is "no" and, though I try to be polite, sometimes it's probably a pretty curt "no." The person asking knows -- or should know -- that they're asking you to take a bad seat, so I don't particularly care about their feelings either, since they demonstrably don't care about mine. If you want me to take a middle seat, offer me cash, don't offer me a friend I already have and found all by myself. That's just cheap, cheesy, and sleazy. OK, rant over.

Sitting in the middle is bad enough - one simply has to deal with it - but the prospect of the window and aisle passengers talking across you on a multi-hour flight is quite another. I wouldn't be quick to assume it's a scam.

PTravel Jul 15, 2012 5:48 pm


Originally Posted by chollie (Post 18932652)
When I travel with family, the number one reason for wanting to sit together (in coach) is because if I'm going to be in extremely close physical quarters for many hours, I'd rather be next to family than to a stranger, particularly if the other individual is generous in size.

Right on the nose!

In cramped quarters, I'd rather my wife share my space than some stranger. That doesn't mean we won't travel if we can't get seats together -- that happens often. We won't self-combust. However, we're both more comfortable when pressed up against each other, as opposed to pressed up against strangers.

hedur Jul 15, 2012 6:09 pm

The question, "why the heck do you NEED to sit together??" in reference to those who don't book seats together but then go out of their way to badger/guilt/annoy others into swapping seats for them, is a valid question. But it makes no sense to question why, given the option, people would rather share a cramped space with a friend/family member as opposed to a total stranger. The reasons are obvious.

peachfront Jul 15, 2012 7:14 pm

It's a scam. Especially when the person they imply is my "friend" is a total stranger that I said like two words to, just to be polite. You're not five two, are you? Trust me. There's an assumption that if you're little, you have a little brain, and you can be pushed around. I'm really sick of it. Really!


Originally Posted by dolcevita (Post 18935509)
Sitting in the middle is bad enough - one simply has to deal with it - but the prospect of the window and aisle passengers talking across you on a multi-hour flight is quite another. I wouldn't be quick to assume it's a scam.


wrp96 Jul 15, 2012 8:04 pm

On my next trip (with a large group) a lady is traveling with us who is a nervous traveller. This is only her third plane trip. We have promised her husband that one of us will sit next to her on every flight. If making sure she sits next to someone she knows let's this person travel and see the world, I can't see the problem with that. On her first trip, flights didn't go as planned due to a hurricane. So on the flights she ended up on she was separated from her husband. Was it really so wrong to ask people to switch seats so a nervous flyer could be comforted - when not in a situation of her own making?

djs Jul 15, 2012 8:09 pm

I should add that I have no problem when people book seats so they are next to each other. My issue is with people who don't want to pay for seats in advance and then freak out because they are not sitting with their traveling partner once the airline assigns their seats for free.

Valid points on both sides, especially when sitting next to a stranger we are likely 10 inches closer to them than we would prefer.

emma69 Jul 15, 2012 9:50 pm

My mother is 5'2 and softly spoken and mild mannered to boot. No one scams her any more than they do taller me. If you are talking to someone, it's not an unreasonable assumption that you know them, so I think you are reading far more into it than there is - they made a snap call you knew each other and asked is you wanted to trade. It's hardly difficult to say 'no thanks' in any case.


Originally Posted by peachfront (Post 18935922)
It's a scam. Especially when the person they imply is my "friend" is a total stranger that I said like two words to, just to be polite. You're not five two, are you? Trust me. There's an assumption that if you're little, you have a little brain, and you can be pushed around. I'm really sick of it. Really!


Originally Posted by dolcevita (Post 18935509)
Sitting in the middle is bad enough - one simply has to deal with it - but the prospect of the window and aisle passengers talking across you on a multi-hour flight is quite another. I wouldn't be quick to assume it's a scam.



FlyingRabbit Jul 15, 2012 10:08 pm

On top of everything that has already been said here about the advantages of sitting together, I'll add this one: my wife is a really nervous flyer, and I much rather have her near me where I can keep her calm.

MSPeconomist Jul 15, 2012 10:15 pm


Originally Posted by FlyingRabbit (Post 18936724)
On top of everything that has already been said here about the advantages of sitting together, I'll add this one: my wife is a really nervous flyer, and I much rather have her near me where I can keep her calm.

Does this make you her emotional support animal? :DThen you can lay at her feet during the flight and not pay for a ticket. ;)OTOH, the airline won't supply F&B, except maybe water if you behave well.:)

RRDD Jul 16, 2012 4:30 am

NY Times: "Etiquette vs. Entitlement in a Scramble for Seats"
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/10/bu...road.html?_r=1

..... “Would you mind switching seats so my wife and I can sit together?” he asked. The wife was looking at me hopefully. Actually, I did mind. I had paid extra for that aisle seat, using an airline credit card that also gave me priority boarding — which meant I was assured that I would have space in an overhead bin near my seat for my carry-on. The extra fee, $20, had bought me a slightly less crummy coach seat on the aisle, but I was happy to have it. .....

..... In a telephone interview, Mr. Cohen said that he thought that some people traveling together on leisure trips exhibited a “sense of entitlement” about being able to sit together. He recalled a recent flight on which a woman sitting in the aisle seat across from him was badgered into giving up her seat and moving a few rows farther back by a couple who insisted on sitting together. The flight attendant also told the woman to swap, and thus “became a tool of this couple to get their way,” Mr. Cohen said. .....

crabbing Jul 16, 2012 6:07 am

RRDD, that article was unintentionally hilarious. cohen "always paid for a full-fare first-class seat" and is complaining about seat-swap requests from people who "are often upgrades to first class traveling on cheaper coach fares." sorry to break it to you, mr. firster-than-first class, but there's only one first class.

this topic comes up pretty often. there is no special rule: everyone is entitled to ask to change seats, but no one is entitled to insist on one. and separated couples should remember that they have two choices for which seat to offer in trade, and offering the better one is more likely to be well-received than offering the worse (e.g., when i was upgraded and separated from my spouse, i happily gave up my F seat to be next to my spouse in coach).

FlyingRabbit Jul 16, 2012 6:53 am


Originally Posted by MSPeconomist (Post 18936750)
Does this make you her emotional support animal? :DThen you can lay at her feet during the flight and not pay for a ticket. ;)OTOH, the airline won't supply F&B, except maybe water if you behave well.:)

LOL :D

Hey, if I can still accrue miles in that situation I'm game.

Yaatri Jul 16, 2012 9:21 am


Originally Posted by bitburgr (Post 18932792)
Not sure why the animosity about people who want to sit together.

When you go out to a restaurant, so you sit at separate tables?
Whe you go to a movie, do you sit in different rows?
When you go to the mall, do you take separate cars?

There is no animosity towards people wanting to sit together. It's just towards those wanting others to move to a less preferred seatthat's the issue.

Originally Posted by IFlyHarder (Post 18933310)
+1
Between work and other obligations, I have little down time with my husband. I strongly prefer to sit with him on flights so we can have a drink together and catch up without an interruption.
We've never asked anyone to move, but on the extremely rare occasion when we have been seated separately, one of the passengers next to us has offered without any solicitation.

Why "+1" There is clearly no animosity towards people wanting to sit together.

Yaatri Jul 16, 2012 9:33 am


Originally Posted by MSPeconomist (Post 18936750)
Does this make you her emotional support animal? :DThen you can lay at her feet during the flight and not pay for a ticket. ;)OTOH, the airline won't supply F&B, except maybe water if you behave well.:)

You nor the airline may ask what special training he might have had. ;) We don't know if he he can or cannot lay at her feet.
I hope someone doesn't get all bent out of shape about emotional support animals and go on a tangent, "are you a qualified medical professional?"
I hope you are not offended Mr FlyingRabbit. My apologies in advance for a little fun.

Homer15 Jul 16, 2012 10:00 am


Originally Posted by PTravel (Post 18935553)
Right on the nose!

In cramped quarters, I'd rather my wife share my space than some stranger. That doesn't mean we won't travel if we can't get seats together -- that happens often. We won't self-combust. However, we're both more comfortable when pressed up against each other, as opposed to pressed up against strangers.

+1. One more reason is that often we are sharing a carryon bag with books, magazines, snacks etc.


I would not ask someone to switch seats with me, but given the personal space issue, I will admit to being mildly annoyed by people travelling together who take aisle/window of a 3-across row.


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