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MikenFla May 14, 2012 7:41 am

Nails in Flight
 
In fc today from FLL to Atl.

Lady sitting across from me whips out nail polish and remover and starts giving herself a mani....the smell was unbelievable! All the the fc cabin were complaining. After beging asked a few times to stop, she just continued.
FA was asked to step in, but walked away without saying anything to her.

Finally, all fingers were painted and she stopped!

Just wondering what others would do if she refused to stop...and also seems like releasing such a toxic smell should be banned ..guess its not currently..

guy999 May 14, 2012 7:43 am


Originally Posted by MikenFla (Post 18570992)
In fc today from FLL to Atl.

Lady sitting across from me whips out nail polish and remover and starts giving herself a mani....the smell was unbelievable! All the the fc cabin were complaining. After beging asked a few times to stop, she just continued.
FA was asked to step in, but walked away without saying anything to her.

Finally, all fingers were painted and she stopped!

Just wondering what others would do if she refused to stop...and also seems like releasing such a toxic smell should be banned ..guess its not currently..

maybe you could aim a fart at her,

Orange County Commuter May 14, 2012 7:44 am

FA was wrong and you need to send a formal notice to Delta. They can, and do, stop the self important from doing their nails on the plane.

Option two. Person next to her should hit turbulence and knock the stuff all over her. Scent won't go away, but she will have a scarlet letter to show how stupid she was

tonypct May 14, 2012 7:44 am

Seems like the norm these days is just to do whatever the heck you want on a plane and the heck with everybody else. :td:

If someone had an allergic reaction, as might happen with peanuts, then maybe the FA might have done something.

Sabai May 14, 2012 7:45 am


Originally Posted by MikenFla (Post 18570992)
FA was asked to step in, but walked away without saying anything to her.

Would not have played out this way on Southwest:

http://articles.nydailynews.com/2012...tion-free-trip

skchin May 14, 2012 7:59 am

How about clipping toe nails?

gooselee May 14, 2012 8:13 am


Originally Posted by Sabai (Post 18571018)
Would not have played out this way on Southwest

Because WN doesn't have F? :p

Seriously, though, I'm curious as to what WN FA's side of this story is, as from what the woman is saying, it sound like the FA had followed her to the lav and was waiting to fight with her when she exited. I find that somewhat hard to believe.

Of course, still kudos to that FA for doing more than what the OP's FA did.


How about clipping toe nails?
I only do this when in F and have the room to put my foot up on the headrest in front of me, where I can easily reach. :D

hockeystl May 14, 2012 9:05 am


Originally Posted by skchin (Post 18571095)
How about clipping toe nails?

Not even close to the same ballpark of painting nails/toes.

Deemus7 May 14, 2012 9:13 am


Originally Posted by hockeystl (Post 18571506)
Not even close to the same ballpark of painting nails/toes.

Yet both are still inappropriate on a plane, whether in F, J, Y, or the lav...common courtesy, people.

MS02113 May 14, 2012 9:20 am


Originally Posted by MikenFla (Post 18570992)
In fc today from FLL to Atl.

Lady sitting across from me whips out nail polish and remover and starts giving herself a mani....the smell was unbelievable!

I experienced a similar lack of courtesy last Wednesday afternoon while flying AMS-JFK in KLM World Business Class. Nobody complained to the offending manicurist, but others in the immediate vicinity definitely noticed the wretched smell.

ScatterX May 14, 2012 9:29 am


Originally Posted by hockeystl (Post 18571506)
Not even close to the same ballpark of painting nails/toes.

I'm probably a minority, but painting nails is much worse IMO. Me and my buddy Jack D. have found a way to ignore the sound of clipping. I can't ignore toxic fumes.


Originally Posted by tonypct (Post 18571006)
If someone had an allergic reaction, as might happen with peanuts, then maybe the FA might have done something.

Is barfing on stupid people an allergic reaction (if caused by toxic fumes, of course)?

:D

skchin May 14, 2012 9:30 am


Originally Posted by hockeystl (Post 18571506)
Not even close to the same ballpark of painting nails/toes.

Spitting tobacco?

samonyc May 14, 2012 9:38 am

Tacky
 
It's times like this I ask myself, What would Julia Sugarbaker do?

MR_MAMA May 14, 2012 9:42 am

Nail polsh is not "toxic fumes" seriously, a bit dramatic? Men an shave, spit tobacco, put feet on bulkhead/overhead, snore, drool, pass burp, but 5 minutes of nail polish is offensive?

bsagator May 14, 2012 9:46 am

I love the smell.

Hoyaheel May 14, 2012 10:17 am


Originally Posted by Deemus7 (Post 18571550)
Yet both are still inappropriate on a plane, whether in F, J, Y, or the lav...common courtesy, people.

I cannot clip my nails in the lav? Seems that would be the proper place to do so. I'm not saying a full manicure - but if I break a nail, I'm going to trim the rest of the nail.......

milehighflyer May 14, 2012 10:33 am


Originally Posted by MR_MAMA (Post 18571756)
Nail polsh is not "toxic fumes" seriously, a bit dramatic? Men an shave, spit tobacco, put feet on bulkhead/overhead, snore, drool, pass burp, but 5 minutes of nail polish is offensive?

When was the last time you saw some guy shaved his face while in his seat?! Or was he shaving his legs? Legs I can totally understand doing at the seat, because you really need a mirror to do your face. :p

Seriously though, it is a enclosed space so yes I would consider nail polish offensive; NO ONE needs a manicure that badly. But I am also the guy that won't bring overly smelly food on board either just to be considerate. Snoring, drooling, burping, and farting are things that are tough if not impossible to control, so you really can't put them in the same category.

patrickATX May 14, 2012 10:46 am


Originally Posted by milehighflyer (Post 18572114)
When was the last time you saw some guy shaved his face while in his seat?!

Last week, LAX-DTW redeye, in F. Electric razor.

MSPeconomist May 14, 2012 10:46 am

Whether the FA should have intervened depends on wheth DL has a rule that forbids the use of nail polish and remover on board. However, it would have been good to explain this to the complaining passengers if this is the case.

Deemus7 May 14, 2012 10:46 am


Originally Posted by Hoyaheel (Post 18571980)
I cannot clip my nails in the lav? Seems that would be the proper place to do so. I'm not saying a full manicure - but if I break a nail, I'm going to trim the rest of the nail.......

I guess I was thinking more of painting nails in the bathroom, where the smell could linger. And I think clipping your fingernails is very different than clipping your toenails, but maybe that's just me...

realjd May 14, 2012 10:47 am

I know I've been around when my wife paints her nails, but I don't recall there being a strong smell associated with it. If there was it must not have been something I found offensive. Does it have a chemical or solvent smell or something?

milehighflyer May 14, 2012 10:50 am


Originally Posted by patrickATX (Post 18572219)
Last week, LAX-DTW redeye, in F. Electric razor.

Wow! Apparently I am not making good enough use of my time on a plane. Here I am reading and working on my laptop, when I could be giving myself a sponge bath or maybe tackling that annoying belly button lint problem... :p

DCBob May 14, 2012 11:00 am

Nail polish and nail polish remover both contain acetone which can be harmful in certain concentrated amounts. Article at http://www.ccohs.ca/oshanswers/chemi..._ace.html#_1_1

dcline414 May 14, 2012 11:17 am


Originally Posted by milehighflyer (Post 18572255)
Wow! Apparently I am not making good enough use of my time on a plane. Here I am reading and working on my laptop, when I could be giving myself a sponge bath or maybe tackling that annoying belly button lint problem... :p

I've seen people shaving while sitting in traffic in ATL. I've also seen people working on a laptop and reading a newspaper while driving. IIRC, the '50 Shades of Gray' author said that she wrote most of it on her blackberry while driving to/from work.

If all that can happen while operating a 1-2 ton piece of machinery, I have no doubt that people will attempt such things during a flight!

Personally, I think personal hygiene should be taken care of at home or in a hotel. If neither is an option, such as during a red eye, then the airport lounge would be far preferable, IMHO. There are exceptions to every rule (i.e. broken nail), but you should be able to anticipate the growth of facial hair and other such hygienic maintenance.

T.J. Bender May 14, 2012 11:27 am

It's happened to me once, and likewise the FAs did not care despite several pax complaining of the smell. Since the amateur manicurist, who couldn't have been older than 18, was next to me and using her boarding pass to catch anything that dripped onto the tray table, I took a look at it and asked if that was her name. She acknowledged and asked why I wanted to know, and I told her that we'd encountered quite a bit of turbulence (we had), and I needed to know who to send the receipts for my new jacket, pants, computer bag and/or laptop to if she so much as got one drop on them.

The nail polish went away with three fingers to go.

flyalways May 14, 2012 11:30 am

Offensive ?
 

Originally Posted by MR_MAMA (Post 18571756)
Nail polsh is not "toxic fumes" seriously, a bit dramatic? Men an shave, spit tobacco, put feet on bulkhead/overhead, snore, drool, pass burp, but 5 minutes of nail polish is offensive?

It is not about Nail Polishing but continue to do something that many
around you are objecting to ! It is about being respectful of others
around you..If you do not want to be mindful of that then
probably flying commercial is not for you...

F.A.

BadgerFlyer91 May 14, 2012 11:54 am


Originally Posted by hockeystl (Post 18571506)
Not even close to the same ballpark of painting nails/toes.

I absolutely agree - the clipping of nails is much more disgusting.

MSPeconomist May 14, 2012 12:25 pm


Originally Posted by BadgerFlyer91 (Post 18572792)
I absolutely agree - the clipping of nails is much more disgusting.

But it doesn't emit a smell of chemicals.

ScatterX May 14, 2012 12:28 pm


Originally Posted by MR_MAMA (Post 18571756)
Nail polsh is not "toxic fumes" seriously, a bit dramatic? Men an shave, spit tobacco, put feet on bulkhead/overhead, snore, drool, pass burp, but 5 minutes of nail polish is offensive?

If one is allergic to the chemicals in the nail polish, then YES!


Originally Posted by DCBob (Post 18572348)
Nail polish and nail polish remover both contain acetone which can be harmful in certain concentrated amounts. Article at http://www.ccohs.ca/oshanswers/chemi..._ace.html#_1_1

^ What he said. Note that it is PROVEN to be a problem in certain amounts. It's very likely harmful in lesser quantities. There is no limit for nail clippings, BTW.


Originally Posted by BadgerFlyer91 (Post 18572792)
I absolutely agree - the clipping of nails is much more disgusting.

Yes, more disgusting. Not more dangerous to one's health. Depends on which ruler we're using. :p

hockeystl May 14, 2012 12:31 pm


Originally Posted by BadgerFlyer91 (Post 18572792)
I absolutely agree - the clipping of nails is much more disgusting.

I can't say I've ever been bothered by someone clipping nails several rows away as I can't hear/see it.

Someone can be painting nails in 34C and have that impact your sense of smell in 1A.

But to each their own....

BHArt May 14, 2012 1:07 pm

I don't think I'm allergic to nail polish fumes, but about 60 seconds of exposure is sure to give me a near instant headache. During boarding there was a pax removing her polish in the row behind me, I politely asked if she was aware of how horrible that smelled in a closed environment and she politely put it away. I would have asked an FA had she not, and I'd be flummoxed if the FA did nothing. Angry me would be sure to spill my drink or the bottle of polish on her, but rational me wouldn't want an assault charge. Tough situation for the OP but I'd let DL know.

DaDaDan May 14, 2012 1:20 pm

Acetone is also extremely flammable. It also evaporates quickly, and it's fumes are also flammable.

Neither of these sound safe on an aircraft.

Singleflyer May 14, 2012 1:26 pm

As I see it the biggest problem is respectful to others. Like all of you I have seen people do some disgusting things on the plane.

The Smell of the nail polish and the nail polish remover is the problem here IMHO.

Trimming a broken nail, OK. Cutting toenails not OK

Chewing tobacco not OK.

Be polite and limit your burping, drooling etc, but you can’t always control that.

I also have a problem with the Nail polish remover since it is flammable. IIRC it does have a quite high flash point, but I did not think you could bring flammables onto a plane.

As someone already pointed out, there are things that should be done at home. Putting on finger nail polish is one of them.

samonyc May 14, 2012 2:35 pm


Originally Posted by OrangeCountyCommuter (Post 18571004)
FA was wrong and you need to send a formal notice to Delta. They can, and do, stop the self important from doing their nails on the plane.

Isn't nail polish also prohibited in carry-ons? It certainly ought to be.

GogoSF May 14, 2012 2:41 pm

I saw a woman do this in FC about a year ago, and the FA swooped right in and asked her to stop, which she did.

I paint my own nails once a week (in the privacy of my home) and have no problem with the smell of the polish/remover. It's a whole different story on a plane though. The woman on my flight had had her bottle of nail polish open for just a couple of minutes and several other passengers were turning around to see where the smell was coming from and complained to the FA.

The worst smelly thing I've ever seen a passenger do happened pre-9/11. I was in coach seated next to an older woman who reached into her purse just as the plane landed, pulled out a full size bottle of very strong perfume and spent about 45 seconds spraying it all over herself. It was one of those very heavy perfumes from the 80's, like Giorgio or Poison. Twas brutal.

LeslieJam May 14, 2012 2:44 pm

The least she could do is offer a mani to the others in FC.

jtrue28 May 14, 2012 2:53 pm

Nail polish smells MUCH better than nail polish REMOVER. I can probably handle the former...but definitely not the latter.

Alpha Golf May 14, 2012 3:29 pm

The F/A just ignored her? I expect the F/A to do the manicure for me. Isn't that what they're there for?

DCBob May 15, 2012 5:19 am


Originally Posted by samonyc (Post 18574128)
Isn't nail polish also prohibited in carry-ons? It certainly ought to be.

Unfortunately, it is not, as long as the amount per bottle is 100 ml (3.4 oz.) or less and it was included in a 1 qt. plastic bag with other carry-on liquids and gels OR purchased airside.

MSPeconomist May 15, 2012 9:24 am

There are also pre-soaked nail polish remover wipes available in foil packets that wouldn't have to go in the 3-1-1 baggie.


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