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Originally Posted by skchin
(Post 18571095)
How about clipping toe nails?
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Originally Posted by TpaDeltaSlave
(Post 18581759)
Had someone on a TPA-LGA clipping their nails a few months ago, next time I' m taking photos or video and posting it... Rude... FA looked but refrained from comment or action...
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http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...BAG41O1CDD.DTL
I don't want that stuff circulating around an enclosed environment and having no choice but to breath it for hours. Most nail polish has those nasty chemicals in them. Acetone (nail polish remover), while it smells worse, is not as toxic in the amounts normally used... however it is much more flammable. It may be considered a paint thinner, and therefore technically not allowed on board... however I'm sure if you have a 100mL bottle of it, you'd have no problem bringing it. |
As this is not a DL-specific topic, I am moving the thread to TravelBuzz.
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Originally Posted by MS02113
(Post 18571605)
I experienced a similar lack of courtesy last Wednesday afternoon while flying AMS-JFK in KLM World Business Class. Nobody complained to the offending manicurist, but others in the immediate vicinity definitely noticed the wretched smell.
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Originally Posted by Deemus7
(Post 18571550)
Yet both are still inappropriate on a plane, whether in F, J, Y, or the lav...common courtesy, people.
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If she was using nail polish remover, often primarily acetone, one of the more highly flammable liquids, and easily ignited by a spark, she was certainly in violation of one or more TSA rules.
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Originally Posted by TMOliver
(Post 18582488)
If she was using nail polish remover, often primarily acetone, one of the more highly flammable liquids, and easily ignited by a spark, she was certainly in violation of one or more TSA rules.
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Acetone is absolutely on the prohibited list. As a footnote, acetone caused one of the post-9/11 flight diversions. A passenger of UK and Pakistan heritage stored his carry-on in the overhead. His wife had spilled a bottle of polish remover (acetone) on the bag before he left (alone) for the airport, and an eagle-eyed (or perhaps eagle-nosed) FA detected the chemical smell during cruise. The flight (IIRC it was AA Antigua-BOS) was diverted to Norfolk. He was questioned and released, and the flight resumed to Boston.
One of the reasons that I think women feel it's OK to do their nails in flight is a Cosmopolitan magazine article about 12 years ago that recommended manicures as a good use of the "down time" on an airplane. I commented on that article here around 2000 or so, not sure if I can find that older thread. |
Originally Posted by MikenFla
(Post 18570992)
In fc today from FLL to Atl.
Lady sitting across from me whips out nail polish and remover and starts giving herself a mani....the smell was unbelievable! All the the fc cabin were complaining. After beging asked a few times to stop, she just continued. FA was asked to step in, but walked away without saying anything to her. Finally, all fingers were painted and she stopped! Just wondering what others would do if she refused to stop...and also seems like releasing such a toxic smell should be banned ..guess its not currently.. |
There is an acetone smell associated with nail polish as well as nail remover. It is such a dreadful poison that most people allow their 6 year old daughters to paint their nails. Some paint the nails of their babies and their pets.
Honestly, guys, I've encountered this hysteria about acetone before, and it really makes me wonder. You do realize that your baby daughter or sister paints her nails and didn't die, right, even with a 6 year old's relatively fragile immune system. It's legal (and not child or pet abuse) because it's harmless. People who go bat-stuff crazy over any type of odor associated with a female or a child, I do worry about those people... You are not allowed to stay in the lav for the amount of time required to brush your teeth, much less do a proper manicure. FAs don't allow you to hog the lav on a flight. If your nails get chipped, on a plane, you don't have the normal option of excusing yourself. Disappearing into the lav for 15 minutes causes much issues and pounding on the door. You must do the repair work where you sit. So I vote get over it. If a plane was diverted in 911 hysteria over a spilled bottle of nail polish, who cares? You don't live your life trying to cater to every possible bit of stupidity that ever happened in the entire history of the world. It just isn't practical. Actually, I quit doing my nails a long time ago but I am retired. Most women don't have that option. The woman on the plane probably had to hit the ground running and be at her best. Women are judged first, last, and always on their looks. She has to take care of herself. When you pay her bills, you can tell her to stop doing her nails. She needed to look good for whoever she was meeting. It ain't about you.
Originally Posted by realjd
(Post 18572231)
I know I've been around when my wife paints her nails, but I don't recall there being a strong smell associated with it. If there was it must not have been something I found offensive. Does it have a chemical or solvent smell or something?
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Originally Posted by peachfront
(Post 18582777)
It's legal (and not child or pet abuse) because it's harmless. People who go bat-stuff crazy over any type of odor associated with a female or a child, I do worry about those people...
Your parents didn't raise you with pigs, so don't act like one. It's a public space. When your actions start infringing on MY body, then YOU need to stop. Period. |
No kidding. I don't even believe I read that.
When you pay her bills, you can tell her to stop doing her nails. |
Originally Posted by rylan
(Post 18582287)
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...BAG41O1CDD.DTL
I don't want that stuff circulating around an enclosed environment and having no choice but to breath it for hours. Most nail polish has those nasty chemicals in them. Acetone (nail polish remover), while it smells worse, is not as toxic in the amounts normally used... however it is much more flammable. It may be considered a paint thinner, and therefore technically not allowed on board... however I'm sure if you have a 100mL bottle of it, you'd have no problem bringing it. |
Originally Posted by peachfront
(Post 18582777)
It's legal (and not child or pet abuse) because it's harmless.
Originally Posted by peachfront
(Post 18582777)
It ain't about you.
Originally Posted by peachfront
(Post 18582777)
People who go bat-stuff crazy over any type of odor associated with a female or a child, I do worry about those people...
Originally Posted by peachfront
(Post 18582777)
You must do the repair work where you sit. So I vote get over it.
Originally Posted by peachfront
(Post 18582777)
If a plane was diverted in 911 hysteria over a spilled bottle of nail polish, who cares?
Originally Posted by peachfront
(Post 18582777)
The woman on the plane probably had to hit the ground running and be at her best. Women are judged first, last, and always on their looks. She has to take care of herself. When you pay her bills, you can tell her to stop doing her nails. She needed to look good for whoever she was meeting.
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Maybe the FA was the one I encountered on a BMI flight a few years back? Business class from LAS to MAN I wanted a drink & went to the galley to find the FA busy painting her nails. :confused:
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Originally Posted by compass31
(Post 18584683)
Maybe the FA was the one I encountered on a BMI flight a few years back? Business class from LAS to MAN I wanted a drink & went to the galley to find the FA busy painting her nails. :confused:
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Originally Posted by MikenFla
(Post 18570992)
Finally, all fingers were painted and she stopped!
I'd be inclined to contact the airline since the flight attendant was asked to intervene and it sounds as if it was not handled well –.even if the decision was not to intervene. |
Originally Posted by peachfront
(Post 18582777)
You are not allowed to stay in the lav for the amount of time required to brush your teeth, much less do a proper manicure.
FAs don't allow you to hog the lav on a flight. If your nails get chipped, on a plane, you don't have the normal option of excusing yourself. Disappearing into the lav for 15 minutes causes much issues and pounding on the door. You must do the repair work where you sit. So I vote get over it. If a plane was diverted in 911 hysteria over a spilled bottle of nail polish, who cares? You don't live your life trying to cater to every possible bit of stupidity that ever happened in the entire history of the world. It just isn't practical. Actually, I quit doing my nails a long time ago but I am retired. Most women don't have that option. The woman on the plane probably had to hit the ground running and be at her best. Women are judged first, last, and always on their looks. She has to take care of herself. When you pay her bills, you can tell her to stop doing her nails. She needed to look good for whoever she was meeting. It ain't about you. Nail polish and nail polish remover may not be hazardous, but they stink. And in an enclosed space people have no option to avoid that stink. What that woman did was inconsiderate and obnoxious. The flight attendant should have put a stop to it. |
Originally Posted by joedish
(Post 18583565)
Migraines are psychosomatic.
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Although the smell is not harmful but in some places it creates bad impression and considered as bad attitude like while flying, if anyone begin to do so. Some people feels its smell good but only when they are doing it at home. It seems to be awkward when you see a person removing nails on a public place or while traveling. Somethings are to be done personally not publically.
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Originally Posted by Marsden
(Post 18582534)
Remind me again why we're permitted matches and cigarette lighters on board?
As noted by another poster and earlier suggested by me, Acetone may actually be on the TSA's prohibited list. |
Originally Posted by peachfront
(Post 18582777)
There is an acetone smell associated with nail polish as well as nail remover. It is such a dreadful poison that most people allow their 6 year old daughters to paint their nails. Some paint the nails of their babies and their pets.
Honestly, guys, I've encountered this hysteria about acetone before, and it really makes me wonder. You do realize that your baby daughter or sister paints her nails and didn't die, right, even with a 6 year old's relatively fragile immune system. It's legal (and not child or pet abuse) because it's harmless. People who go bat-stuff crazy over any type of odor associated with a female or a child, I do worry about those people... You are not allowed to stay in the lav for the amount of time required to brush your teeth, much less do a proper manicure. FAs don't allow you to hog the lav on a flight. If your nails get chipped, on a plane, you don't have the normal option of excusing yourself. Disappearing into the lav for 15 minutes causes much issues and pounding on the door. You must do the repair work where you sit. So I vote get over it. If a plane was diverted in 911 hysteria over a spilled bottle of nail polish, who cares? You don't live your life trying to cater to every possible bit of stupidity that ever happened in the entire history of the world. It just isn't practical. Actually, I quit doing my nails a long time ago but I am retired. Most women don't have that option. The woman on the plane probably had to hit the ground running and be at her best. Women are judged first, last, and always on their looks. She has to take care of herself. When you pay her bills, you can tell her to stop doing her nails. She needed to look good for whoever she was meeting. It ain't about you. |
Quite! I just left the office where I have been in meetings etc and guess what - no nail polish! And, quelle horreur, I am NOT WEARING MAKE UP!!!! And for that matter my hair dried on the way to work this morning, so no fancy blow dry either.
Guess my clients / colleagues care far more about my work than me doing Barbie impressions. There is no need (catwalk model, tv presenters aside) to wear make up, nail polish etc to do a good job and be respected for it. I've also never had a problem bushing my teeth on a plane (and cleansing, toning and moisturizing, and putting on my PJs) nor did I have an issue spending over 45 minutes in the loo when I was I'll one flight. No one knocked on the door. No FA told me it caused an issue or 'pounded' for me to get out. There were other loos, there were no issues.
Originally Posted by jstevenson0617
(Post 18586543)
Originally Posted by peachfront
(Post 18582777)
There is an acetone smell associated with nail polish as well as nail remover. It is such a dreadful poison that most people allow their 6 year old daughters to paint their nails. Some paint the nails of their babies and their pets.
Honestly, guys, I've encountered this hysteria about acetone before, and it really makes me wonder. You do realize that your baby daughter or sister paints her nails and didn't die, right, even with a 6 year old's relatively fragile immune system. It's legal (and not child or pet abuse) because it's harmless. People who go bat-stuff crazy over any type of odor associated with a female or a child, I do worry about those people... You are not allowed to stay in the lav for the amount of time required to brush your teeth, much less do a proper manicure. FAs don't allow you to hog the lav on a flight. If your nails get chipped, on a plane, you don't have the normal option of excusing yourself. Disappearing into the lav for 15 minutes causes much issues and pounding on the door. You must do the repair work where you sit. So I vote get over it. If a plane was diverted in 911 hysteria over a spilled bottle of nail polish, who cares? You don't live your life trying to cater to every possible bit of stupidity that ever happened in the entire history of the world. It just isn't practical. Actually, I quit doing my nails a long time ago but I am retired. Most women don't have that option. The woman on the plane probably had to hit the ground running and be at her best. Women are judged first, last, and always on their looks. She has to take care of herself. When you pay her bills, you can tell her to stop doing her nails. She needed to look good for whoever she was meeting. It ain't about you. |
ATSDR ToxFaqs entry for acetone:
How can acetone affect my health? If you are exposed to acetone, it goes into your blood which then carries it to all the organs in your body. If it is a small amount, the liver breaks it down to chemicals that are not harmful and uses these chemicals to make energy for normal body functions. Breathing moderate- to-high levels of acetone for short periods of time, however, can cause nose, throat, lung, and eye irritation; headaches; light-headedness; confusion; increased pulse rate; effects on blood; nausea; vomiting; unconsciousness and possibly coma; and shortening of the menstrual cycle in women. Swallowing very high levels of acetone can result in unconsciousness and damage to the skin in your mouth. Skin contact can result in irritation and damage to your skin. The smell and respiratory irritation or burning eyes that occur from moderate levels are excellent warning signs that can help you avoid breathing damaging levels of acetone. Health effects from long-term exposures are known mostly from animal studies. Kidney, liver, and nerve damage, increased birth defects, and lowered ability to reproduce (males only) occurred in animals exposed long-term. |
There is no time limit for anybody in a lav, that's just silly.
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