Does anyone listen the FA's
Apr 22, 2012 | 11:57 am
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Does anyone listen the FA's
Flying this morning FLL-CLE in F on a -700. During the first hour of the flight several Y passengers came up to use the F lav. Worst part is each time
the lav was occupied and they were standing outside the door which is also
a severe no no as this is right behind the cockpit doors. One man after doing his business stood in the F isle for over 10 minuntes.
the lav was occupied and they were standing outside the door which is also
a severe no no as this is right behind the cockpit doors. One man after doing his business stood in the F isle for over 10 minuntes.
Apr 22, 2012 | 12:08 pm
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Flying this morning FLL-CLE in F on a -700. During the first hour of the flight several Y passengers came up to use the F lav. Worst part is each time
the lav was occupied and they were standing outside the door which is also
a severe no no as this is right behind the cockpit doors. One man after doing his business stood in the F isle for over 10 minuntes.
the lav was occupied and they were standing outside the door which is also
a severe no no as this is right behind the cockpit doors. One man after doing his business stood in the F isle for over 10 minuntes.
Apr 22, 2012 | 12:10 pm
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Nobody seems to respect cabin integrity anymore and the FAs don't seem to care. However, the scenario that you describe, i.e. standing 10 minutes behind the cockpit door, is probably a violation of FAA regs, so someone should have done something about it.
Apr 22, 2012 | 12:19 pm
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Yes, it was closed but it was no secured so they just pushed through. I understand if they are doing service the cart blocks the passage to the rear.
My issue is it was several people and they need to make sure they watch the occupied sign as they are told they can't congragate outside the Lav door, especially in F.
My issue is it was several people and they need to make sure they watch the occupied sign as they are told they can't congragate outside the Lav door, especially in F.
Apr 22, 2012 | 12:20 pm
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Apr 22, 2012 | 1:38 pm
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This is why I give FAs A&Bs on US whenever I see them tell a Y pax not to use the F lav or not to put their bags in the F overhead until all of F is seated. I want the FAs to know I appreciate this and would like more of them to enforce these rules. Unfortunately, I don't hand these out for those reasons as often as I'd like to. :-/
Apr 22, 2012 | 8:18 pm
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(BTW, just had my wife read this and said this post is not over the line because this has happened to her on numerous occasions...)
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Apr 22, 2012 | 9:50 pm
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Oh Christ... Come on... After 45 minutes of boarding... Then 30-45 min after push back before takeoff. Then a capt that doesn't want to turn off the seatbelt sign for 30-40 minutes (and by then a cart is is the aisle)... What do you want someone to do? Piss in their seat or perhaps yours? Or just use the lav they can get access to... I guess it is good there is a lav in the front...
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(BTW, just had my wife read this and said this post is not over the line because this has happened to her on numerous occasions...)
[Conforming edit by moderator of quoted material.]
(BTW, just had my wife read this and said this post is not over the line because this has happened to her on numerous occasions...)
I rather suspect that's why the FAs didn't do anything--they knew it was simple biology at work.
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Apr 23, 2012 | 10:00 am
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Flying this morning FLL-CLE in F on a -700. During the first hour of the flight several Y passengers came up to use the F lav. Worst part is each time
the lav was occupied and they were standing outside the door which is also
a severe no no as this is right behind the cockpit doors. One man after doing his business stood in the F isle for over 10 minuntes.
the lav was occupied and they were standing outside the door which is also
a severe no no as this is right behind the cockpit doors. One man after doing his business stood in the F isle for over 10 minuntes.
No FA has ever had an issue with me standing up near the cockpit in flight - the only time it is an issue is if the pilots want to come out - some may ask you to move, some don't care, and just ask you to physically move to the side a bit to open the door. I've spent multiple overnights hanging out by the cockpit door, having a drink, chatting with FAs etc as I don't sleep well, even at the front of the plane.
Apr 23, 2012 | 10:37 am
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Hey if you gotta go, you gotta go. BUT! I wouldn't hang out in the galley to wait for someone. I would wait in my seat and if FC was the only lav open and I had to go badly...I'm going to the bathroom in FC lol
BTW---kinda off topic. Most US domestic pilots are chickens about turbulence. AS soon as there is a slight bump...on comes the fasten seat belt sign. I flew Air Canada a few weeks ago and as soon as we hit 10k feet..seat belt sign was off and remained off until descent. We had a few bumps along the way but nothing serious. We lived
BTW---kinda off topic. Most US domestic pilots are chickens about turbulence. AS soon as there is a slight bump...on comes the fasten seat belt sign. I flew Air Canada a few weeks ago and as soon as we hit 10k feet..seat belt sign was off and remained off until descent. We had a few bumps along the way but nothing serious. We lived
Apr 23, 2012 | 10:54 am
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Hey if you gotta go, you gotta go. BUT! I wouldn't hang out in the galley to wait for someone. I would wait in my seat and if FC was the only lav open and I had to go badly...I'm going to the bathroom in FC lol
BTW---kinda off topic. Most US domestic pilots are chickens about turbulence. AS soon as there is a slight bump...on comes the fasten seat belt sign. I flew Air Canada a few weeks ago and as soon as we hit 10k feet..seat belt sign was off and remained off until descent. We had a few bumps along the way but nothing serious. We lived
BTW---kinda off topic. Most US domestic pilots are chickens about turbulence. AS soon as there is a slight bump...on comes the fasten seat belt sign. I flew Air Canada a few weeks ago and as soon as we hit 10k feet..seat belt sign was off and remained off until descent. We had a few bumps along the way but nothing serious. We lived
I think that it is comical that a country like Japan, which has roughly 40% of the population of the US, can somehow function with fewer lawyers for the whole country than there are in Orange County, California.
Apr 23, 2012 | 12:21 pm
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This is why I give FAs A&Bs on US whenever I see them tell a Y pax not to use the F lav or not to put their bags in the F overhead until all of F is seated. I want the FAs to know I appreciate this and would like more of them to enforce these rules. Unfortunately, I don't hand these out for those reasons as often as I'd like to. :-/
Does this DYKWIA think he owns the airline?
Apr 23, 2012 | 1:19 pm
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I'm not OK with passengers from Y coming into the F cabin. If i'm paying for an F seat, part of the bargained for benefit in my ticket price is a smaller passenger to lavatory ratio, which should in theory ensure that I don't have to wait, or at worst have a short wait for the lavs. Passengers in the back shouldn't be able to come up front and force me to wait behind them "because they feel like it."
Apr 23, 2012 | 1:33 pm
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Here, in the "Land of the Free", everybody must worry about the tort lawyers and it affects the way every business conducts itself.
I think that it is comical that a country like Japan, which has roughly 40% of the population of the US, can somehow function with fewer lawyers for the whole country than there are in Orange County, California.
I think that it is comical that a country like Japan, which has roughly 40% of the population of the US, can somehow function with fewer lawyers for the whole country than there are in Orange County, California.