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Old Apr 29, 2022, 11:34 pm
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21. (1973) What’s the first airport alphabetically listed in the January 1st, 1973 OAG with scheduled jet service? Which airline and jet serves it. From where?
It's not Abilene nor TI

How about Aberdeen SD / ABR … Herman adorning the tail of a North Central DC-9-30 arriving from Minneapolis/MSP

How 'bout Aberdeen? Indeed, Aberdeen (ABR) is the very first entry on page 1 (of the schedules) in the OAG. Service was with Herman (who only flew one jet type at the time) , however it was not from MSP. Think another capitol city...

10. (1973) What a great way to do an air tour of America - aboard a widebody jetliner flying a four stop itinerary from Los Angeles to New York (LGA). Of course, it goes without saying you’ll be sat in First Class. Hey, there’s the boarding call for First Class. C’mon, let’s go! Please identify the airline, the four enroute stops and the aircraft type.

I’ll start the conversation with a Delta TriStar; three pretty obvious stops are Dallas/DFW, New Orleans/MSY, and Atlanta/ATL … between ATL and LGA, stops in the mid-Atlantic region were more in Eastern’s wheelhouse, so I’m thinking that if the flight in question was indeed a DL L10, it made a southerly detour to Jacksonville/JAX

It wasn't Delta or the L1011 so that leaves two other aircraft types and a bevy of possible airlines. Are you up for it? Kinda like the IMF asking Jim Phelps "Should you decide to accept this mission.... yada yada" and of course Jim has yet to ever say "Nah.,.. I think I'll take a pass on this one, thanks." OMG! Show over, credits roll... right up there with Bambi Meets Godzilla for brevity of cinematic experience. Don't disappoint us, J!

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Old Apr 29, 2022, 11:46 pm
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21- even without the hint, I’d be flipping a coin between the capital cities of the Dakotas — Bismarck ND/BIS and Pierre SD/PIR

Imma gonna go with PIR, and add the caveat that the operation was a circle that actually started and ended at MSP
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Old Apr 29, 2022, 11:52 pm
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10- let’s try the Sun King — a National DC-10 operating via Houston/IAH, New Orleans/MSY, Tampa/TPA, and West Palm Beach/PBI
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Old Apr 30, 2022, 12:40 am
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[QUOTE=jrl767;34208597]21. (1973) What’s the first airport listed in the January 1st, 1973 OAG with scheduled jet service? Which airline and jet serves it. From where?

Even without the hint, I’d be flipping a coin between the capital cities of the Dakotas — Bismarck ND/BIS and Pierre SD/PIR. Imma gonna go with PIR, and add the caveat that the operation was a circle that actually started and ended at MSP[/QUOTE]

Well I dunno bout that caveat cuz ah'mon in Beatty, Nevada and ... knows where dat plane went. Prolly MSP but again, who knows? Certainly not me - Ah'm here in Beatty, Nevada where I haven't been able to find a single book for sale. There is a library which is great for residents but of no use to us vagabonds passing through town. Anyway, yer probably right but that's not the point - PIR is correct. Right - I'm off to bed...

North Central NC 760 Pierre (PIR) 848a-915a Aberdeen (ABR) DC-9-30 Daily
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Old Apr 30, 2022, 12:44 am
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Originally Posted by jrl767
10- let’s try the Sun King — a National DC-10 operating via Houston/IAH, New Orleans/MSY, Tampa/TPA, and West Palm Beach/PBI
Fugeddaboutit!
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12. (1986) Not many people working with the Peace Corps come from Mexico. Indeed, you may the only one. It’s been a great experience though, with the only downside being the travel to and from Lome, Togo. Imagine then your surprise and delight upon learning that one airline and only one airline can get you all the way from Lome to MEX if you travel on Saturday. Two one-stop flights through a single connection point will be involved, each flight operated by a different type of equipment. Identify the airline, all three enroute stops and the two aircraft to be flown

Here's a belter. I'm not aware of either UTA or Air Afrique ever serving Mexico, so lets try Sabena, Lome-Lagos-Brussels, followed bt Brussels-Montreal-Mexico. DC-10 on the African leg, and 747 over the Atlantic.

Hélas, it was not Sabena but, you have correctly identified the routing of the first flight which did fly through Lagos with a DC-10-30 enroute to the connection point. It then connected to a one-stop 747 into Mexico City. Should be tap-in time now...
OK, what about just down the road from Brussels, at Amsterdam. KLM DC-10 Lome-Lagos-Amsterdam, then KLM 747 Amsterdam-Houston-Mexico ?
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Old Apr 30, 2022, 10:10 am
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Originally Posted by Seat 2A
Fugeddaboutit!
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0- that’s not too different than “Nope!”

sticking with a D10: American via Phoenix/PHX, Chicago/ORD, Detroit/DTW, and Rochester/ROC

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Originally Posted by jrl767
21. (1973) What’s the first airport listed in the January 1st, 1973 OAG with scheduled jet service? Which airline and jet serves it. From where?

Even without the hint, I’d be flipping a coin between the capital cities of the Dakotas — Bismarck ND/BIS and Pierre SD/PIR. Imma gonna go with PIR, and add the caveat that the operation was a circle that actually started and ended at MSP

Pierre it is! I didn't transcribe the entire flight, but with Herman, everything ends up in Minneapolis sooner or later...

North Central NC 760 Pierre (PIR) 848a-915a Aberdeen (ABR) DC-9-30 Daily


10. (1973) What a great way to do an air tour of America - aboard a widebody jetliner flying a four stop itinerary from Los Angeles to New York (LGA). Of course, it goes without saying you’ll be sat in First Class. Hey, there’s the boarding call for First Class. C’mon, let’s go! Please identify the airline, the four enroute stops and the aircraft type.

Let’s try the Sun King — a National DC-10 operating via Houston/IAH, New Orleans/MSY, Tampa/TPA, and West Palm Beach/PBI

It was not National. In my myriad perusals of the OAG over the years, I don't recall seeing any NA flight routings from the west coast ending up in New York. Doesn't mean they didn't happen though. I remember a post deregulation routing SJU-MIA-LAX-SEA. Still, nothing like this in 1973. Please, guess again!
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12. (1986) Not many people working with the Peace Corps come from Mexico. Indeed, you may the only one. It’s been a great experience though, with the only downside being the travel to and from Lome, Togo. Imagine then your surprise and delight upon learning that one airline and only one airline can get you all the way from Lome to MEX if you travel on Saturday. Two one-stop flights through a single connection point will be involved, each flight operated by a different type of equipment. Identify the airline, all three enroute stops and the two aircraft to be flown

OK, what about just down the road from Brussels, at Amsterdam. KLM DC-10 Lome-Lagos-Amsterdam, then KLM 747 Amsterdam-Houston-Mexico ?

Now we're talking

KLM KL 584 Lome (LFW) 640a-820a Lagos (LOS) 925a-355p Amsterdam (AMS) DC-10-30 Sa
KLM KL 687 Amsterdam (AMS) 510p-840p Houston (IAH) 945p-1130p Mexico City (MEX) 747-200 Sa
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3. (1987) Well this oughta be fun! You need to fly from Cheyenne, Wyoming to Burbank, California and you’ve put together a nice little itinerary featuring three nonstop flights aboard three different airlines. Best of all, each of the three flights will be aboard 4-engine aircraft. If this sounds like your kind of trip, identify the three airlines, the routing and the three aircraft types.
Almost answered. We need 146 operator. Not PS or OC

22. (1993) You’re a professor of Indigenous Studies at the University of Tennessee and you've been invited to speak at a symposium on Northern Peoples being held at the University of Ottawa, the capitol of Canada. You can’t help but cringe at what you presume will be a convoluted collection of airlines and flights required to fly from Knoxville to Ottawa. As such, you are positively ecstatic to learn that there’s a two-stop direct flight operating at a decent time of day, too. Book it, Danno! Airline, route and aircraft please.
It's US Air via PIT as first stop. A/C not an F28 or D9S
3. Let's go with a rather obscure operator flying nonstop BAe 146 service from Las Vegas to Burbank: Royal West.

22. Hmmmmm.....I really have no idea where the second stop was made. So let's try USAir operating a B737-200 via Pittsburgh and Rochester.
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Re. my response times: I've got appointments tomorrow morning and mid-afternoon in Ft. Collins, then it's down to Canon City, CO to position for my train ride on the 5th through the Royal Gorge. I'll be free tomorrow night (5/4) and the morning of the 5th, thence later the evening of the 5th in Buena Vista, CO

1. (1986) Christmas Island (In Kiribati) offers arguably the best fishing for bonefish in the world, so good that you’ve come all the way from Bangladesh to enjoy a week of tropical splendor and lots of delicious bonefish. Now it’s time to return home to Dhaka. You’ve found a great itinerary involving three nonstop flights on three different airlines, each operating a different jet type powered by a cumulative total of eight engines. One of them is a widebody. Along the way you’ll spend two full days seeing to business interests at the second stop. Please identify all the usual stuff - airlines, aircraft and route.

4. (1973) Miami International is a pretty good place for plane spotting. Jets, props from Central America and the Caribbean, even a small aircraft graveyard… it’s all good. There is one jet aircraft however that is extremely rare at MIA, so rare that as of the January 1973 North American OAG it’s limited to just a single daily flight. Please identify the aircraft as well as the airline and airport that it flies into Miami from.
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5. (1993) What a wonderful week you’ve had in Aruba. You might even consider buying a beachfront condo here someday. In the meantime, it’s back to the cold gray skies of the Windy City. On a positive note, you’ll get to fly back into Chicago’s Midway Airport, much closer to your home on da South Side. Your trip will involve two nonstop flights, each on different airlines. Although both airlines will be operating the same model of aircraft, you’ll be transferring to a different variant for the flight into Midway. Please provide the name of the two airlines, the two different aircraft and of course the connection airport.

8. (1987) Spring skiing is the best and this April you’ll be spending a week at Jackson Hole. From your home in Santa Barbara, CA you’ve found an online connection with a nonstop flight from SBA to the connection airport followed by a one stop flight into Jackson. You’ll also be changing to a smaller aircraft at the connecting airport. We’re looking for the usual three things here, and don’t forget to identify the enroute stop on the second flight.
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9. (1986) Well this oughta be interesting. You’ll be flying from Buenos Aires to Mexico City on one airline all the way through utilizing two nonstop flights and a single connection. Two different four engine aircraft will be involved and First Class will be available all the way through. Can you identify the airline, the enroute stop and both aircraft types?
See Post 25794

11. (1993) From one side of the country to the other - You’re traveling from Vancouver, BC to Halifax, NS. Your first flight will be nonstop, after which you’ll connect to a one-stopper to Halifax. Two small twinjets of different manufacture will be employed and you’ll be fed breakfast, lunch and dinner along the way. Please identify the two airlines, the two enroute stops and the two equipment types.
See post 25794

13. (1992) Who’d have ever thought you could fly from the little town of Derby on Australia’s northwest coast all the way to Port Moresby in Papua New Guinea in a single day? In the old days… no way, but in 1992 it’s possible, if you get an early start. To that end, you’ve cobbled together a three flight itinerary involving three airlines, each operating nonstop flights with different equipment, none of which are of American manufacture. Which airlines and equipment types will you be flying upon? What two airports will you be flying through enroute to Port Moresby?

14. (1987) It used to be that if you wanted to fly nonstop between San Diego and Tucson, you called American Airlines. No more. In the spring of 1987, three other airlines each offer a single daily nonstop. Each airline also operates a different equipment type. We’re looking for a complete answer here identifying each of the three airlines and the aircraft each operates on this route.
Please see #25741

15. (1973) You’re traveling from Montego Bay to Tampa. You’ll be making an overnight connection in Miami where you’ll visit with your cousins before continuing on to Tampa the next day. Two things: One - You’ll be flying aboard the only flight in each market (MBJ-MIA and MIA-TPA) operated with single class aircraft and two - your flight from Miami up to Tampa will have a single enroute stop. Please identify the two airlines, the aircraft each operates on this trip and the enroute stop between Miami and Tampa

16. (1972) Normally you book Delta to get from Caracas to Los Angeles, but alas, they’ve no seats available on the day you need to travel. Thankfully another airline does, in First Class, on a two stop direct flight no less. Identify the airline, the two enroute stops and the aircraft type.
See post 25793

17. (1986) Per 1986 standards, if you were flying aboard scheduled flights from the southernmost airport in the world to the northernmost airport in the world, where would you be flying from and to? What two airlines would be involved? What type of aircraft does each airline use to serve its respective airport?

18. (1992) While a few of the stretched 60/70 variants of McDonnell Douglas’ DC-8 can still be found in passenger service around the world, the standard 10-50 variants are extremely rare, most of them relegated to cargo service in South America and Africa. However, you’ve found an itinerary from South America to the U.S. that allows you to fly both the standard and stretch variants of this now venerable aircraft. It will involve two nonstop flights on two different airlines through a single connection point. Please provide all the usual stuff intrinsic to a complete and correct answer.
See post 25796

19. (1987) Normally you call Delta when you want to fly from Portland, Maine to Orlando, Florida. Unfortunately, it’s spring break and Delta’s flights are unavailable. Fortunately for you and the Missus, you’ve found a pair of First Class seats on another airline. You’ll have to make a connection but both flights will be nonstop and food will be served on both flights, which by the way both utilize the same aircraft type. Airline, connection point and aircraft please.

20. (1986) Ah, the life of a modern day setter… After a week of sun and fun in the Greek isles, it’s time for you and your girlfriend to pack up and head for Brazil. Of course, you’ll treat your lady to First Class airfare, utilizing two nonstop flights aboard the same airline, thus just a single connection will be involved. Two different aircraft types will be flown. The route you’ll be flying just happens to be the shortest possible routing you can fly between Athens and Rio de Janeiro. So then, can you determine the usual triumvirate of details? Of course you can!

22. (1993) You’re a professor of Indigenous Studies at the University of Tennessee and you've been invited to speak at a symposium on Northern Peoples being held at the University of Ottawa, the capitol of Canada. You can’t help but cringe at what you presume will be a convoluted collection of airlines and flights required to fly from Knoxville to Ottawa. As such, you are positively ecstatic to learn that there’s a two-stop direct flight operating at a decent time of day, too. Book it, Danno! Airline, route and aircraft please.
A N S W E R E D

23. (1986) Bolivia’s El Alto International Airport sits at 13,325 feet. Airliners need a lot of runway to take off (Runway 10/28 13,123’) from such a high elevation and even then cannot do so fully loaded. As a result, flights departing LAP are limited as to how much fuel they can depart with. In consideration of that, what is the destination of the longest flight departure from La Paz? A cyber pat on the back and the unbridled admiration of your fellow participants if you can also identify the airline and aircraft operating this flight.
See posts 25749 and immediately afterward

24. (1992) Who’d have ever thought one could fly from New York all the way to Bangkok entirely on a U.S. built single aisle aircraft? On the same airline no less. Well let’s do it then! You’ll depart New York’s Kennedy International Friday evening on a one stop flight to your connection point. There you’ll spend one night before continuing on the next day aboard another one stop flight to Bangkok. Please identify the airline, the three enroute stops (including the connection city) and the single aircraft type employed throughout.
See post 25795

25. (1987) You’ve been looking for a good deal on a used Semi-truck tractor for quite a while now, but if this 1984 Peterbilt Model 379 C in Great Falls, Montana is legit, you just may have found your deal! Now then, how to get to Great Falls from your home in Wakarusa, Kansas? You were thinking you’d have to drive over to Kansas City and fly from there but are pleasantly surprised to learn that you can fly out of Topeka, just a few miles from your home. Yeah, but is it on a jet? You’re too big to squeeze into one a those little prop planes. Yes, it’s a jet. You’ll fly the same airline all the way to GTF, too. The first flight will be a one stopper to the connection airport, followed by another one stopper into Great Falls. Both flights will be operated by the same aircraft type. Airline, the three stops and the aircraft type please.

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Old Apr 30, 2022, 11:08 am
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Originally Posted by jrl767
10. (1973) What a great way to do an air tour of America - aboard a widebody jetliner flying a four stop itinerary from Los Angeles to New York (LGA). Of course, it goes without saying you’ll be sat in First Class. Hey, there’s the boarding call for First Class. C’mon, let’s go! Please identify the airline, the four enroute stops and the aircraft type.

Sticking with a D10: American via Phoenix/PHX, Chicago/ORD, Detroit/DTW, and Rochester/ROC

American is correct! So is Phoenix. The rest is incorrect. Phoenix was not the first stop.
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Old Apr 30, 2022, 11:20 am
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3. (1987) Well this oughta be fun! You need to fly from Cheyenne, Wyoming to Burbank, California and you’ve put together a nice little itinerary featuring three nonstop flights aboard three different airlines. Best of all, each of the three flights will be aboard 4-engine aircraft. If this sounds like your kind of trip, identify the three airlines, the routing and the three aircraft types.

Let's go with a rather obscure operator flying nonstop BAe 146 service from Las Vegas to Burbank: Royal West.

That's the one. Let's head out to the airport!

Continental Express CO 2151 655a-730a Cheyenne (CYS) Denver (DEN) DHC-7 X6
United UA 173 Denver (DEN) 851a-939a S Las Vegas (LAS) DC-8-71 Daily
Royal West YM 1431 Las Vegas (LAS) 1200n-1255p Burbank (BUR) BAe-146

22. (1993) You’re a professor of Indigenous Studies at the University of Tennessee and you've been invited to speak at a symposium on Northern Peoples being held at the University of Ottawa, the capitol of Canada. You can’t help but cringe at what you presume will be a convoluted collection of airlines and flights required to fly from Knoxville to Ottawa. As such, you are positively ecstatic to learn that there’s a two-stop direct flight operating at a decent time of day, too. Book it, Danno! Airline, route and aircraft please.
It's US Air via PIT as first stop. A/C not an F28 or D9S

Hmmmmm.....I really have no idea where the second stop was made. So let's try USAir operating a B737-200 via Pittsburgh and Rochester.

You are ever so close! Everything is correct except for Rochester. But you are very close!

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That's it for this morning, gang. I'm off to Death Valley National Park on a cool (mid-seventies) but otherwise beautiful morning. We'll check back this evening.
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Originally Posted by Seat 2A

22. (1993) You’re a professor of Indigenous Studies at the University of Tennessee and you've been invited to speak at a symposium on Northern Peoples being held at the University of Ottawa, the capitol of Canada. You can’t help but cringe at what you presume will be a convoluted collection of airlines and flights required to fly from Knoxville to Ottawa. As such, you are positively ecstatic to learn that there’s a two-stop direct flight operating at a decent time of day, too. Book it, Danno! Airline, route and aircraft please.
It's US Air via PIT as first stop. A/C not an F28 or D9S
22. Monty, it's time to go for broke here: USAir operating a 73S via Pittsburgh and Buffalo.

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