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Old Mar 22, 2011 | 6:52 pm
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I am getting kind of tired of going through so many machinations in order to score an upgrade or take multiple flights, which include RJ's to my destination. If DL can't get me where I want to go without a lot of hassle, I'll now (gasp) fly another carrier. This year I have flown WN to OAK, and US to PHX. There was a time I would have considered making these 1 hour flights, 4 hour flights by connecting through SLC. No longer.
Great thread ^
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Old Mar 23, 2011 | 10:21 am
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Originally Posted by obscure2k
I am getting kind of tired of going through so many machinations in order to score an upgrade or take multiple flights, which include RJ's to my destination. If DL can't get me where I want to go without a lot of hassle, I'll now (gasp) fly another carrier. This year I have flown WN to OAK, and US to PHX. There was a time I would have considered making these 1 hour flights, 4 hour flights by connecting through SLC. No longer.
Great thread ^
I'm with you. A combination of lower status + worthless DL SkyPesos compelled me to take the same approach. I look for price/convenience first, then loyalty. I might pay a little extra to fly DL, but not if I have to fly at 6am and/or have ridiculous connections.
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Old Mar 23, 2011 | 1:23 pm
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Originally Posted by KoKoBuddy
I used to fly 150K miles a year and 100+ nights a year in hotels. Lots of upgrades, miles, perks, etc.

Then I stopped travel for business. I flew for pleasure 2-3 times a year. I lost my status. I was the lowest form of life known to FT.......a kettle. I know fly once a month on average. But since since I now live in a small, non-hub market and fly whatever is cheapest, I have no meaningful amount of miles or status on any airline.

After a while I stopped caring. So I sat in a middle seat and had to wait an extra 10 mins in the TSA line. Meh. Life goes on.

And now I walk onto the plane and see the 1st class people sneering at us lowly coach dwellers. I see myself 5-10 years ago. Half of me envies them for being in 1st. The other half is relieved I don't have to spend so much time in a plane to get the upgrades.

My stress levels when I fly now are almost non-existent. I know I won't get upgraded so I don't obsessively check online if I got it. I don't spend time pleading with GAs for an upgrade. I don't stare the the upgrade screen at the gate and hope and pray that since I'm #3 on the list, 3 people don't show up. Or wonder to myself why I am #3 since I should be #1 since I'm so darned special. I don't feel like I was snubbed if I don't get the upgrade and spend the whole flight pissed off that I have to be in coach.
I think you misunderstand what a "Kettle" is. A Kettle is NOT NECESSARILY someone who doesn't fly frequently, although it is an aspect of it. A "Kettle" is someone who does not know what they are doing during the process and makes life harder for everyone else as a result of their ignorance.

A non FF'er who knows to remove things prior to security, knows how to get around the airport, knows how to line up and board a plane, and knows how to get back from the lav without grabbing the seatback of everyone between their seat and the lav is not a kettle.

You flew alot, you are never going to be a kettle again, even if you don't fly now.
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Old Mar 23, 2011 | 1:52 pm
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Originally Posted by KoKoBuddy
I used to fly 150K miles a year and 100+ nights a year in hotels. Lots of upgrades, miles, perks, etc.

Then I stopped travel for business. I flew for pleasure 2-3 times a year. I lost my status. I was the lowest form of life known to FT.......a kettle. I know fly once a month on average. But since since I now live in a small, non-hub market and fly whatever is cheapest, I have no meaningful amount of miles or status on any airline.

After a while I stopped caring. So I sat in a middle seat and had to wait an extra 10 mins in the TSA line. Meh. Life goes on.

And now I walk onto the plane and see the 1st class people sneering at us lowly coach dwellers. I see myself 5-10 years ago. Half of me envies them for being in 1st. The other half is relieved I don't have to spend so much time in a plane to get the upgrades.

My stress levels when I fly now are almost non-existent. I know I won't get upgraded so I don't obsessively check online if I got it. I don't spend time pleading with GAs for an upgrade. I don't stare the the upgrade screen at the gate and hope and pray that since I'm #3 on the list, 3 people don't show up. Or wonder to myself why I am #3 since I should be #1 since I'm so darned special. I don't feel like I was snubbed if I don't get the upgrade and spend the whole flight pissed off that I have to be in coach.
Great post - I had an experience not too long ago that is just a little similar. I flew United (Im plat on DL) because I wanted to take a non stop back to BOS from ORD as late as possible. Knowing I was 'nothing' to United, I never even thought about upgrades, etc - and it was shockingly 'stress free' even boarding in Seating 4.
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Old Mar 25, 2011 | 2:12 pm
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Just booked a non-stop Jet Blue from LAX/BOS/LAX. I liked the times offered, the fact that I don't have to connect and best of all, not sweating getting the upgrade. On Jet Blue I purchased the extra legroom seats for an extra $60.00. I'll board first, have first access to overhead bin and lots of legroom. Actually a relief not worrying about my miles and upgrades.
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