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Old Mar 13, 2011 | 8:30 pm
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Swimming in the Air?

I was just wondering this morning, after noticing the bathtub in the bathroom still full of water ready to be bucketed out to the garden, do you think they'll ever have a swimming pool of sorts on long-haul international flights one day? Or, at least, perhaps a warm, bubbly spa-bath?

They do on cruise ships, but that's obviously because the ships nowadays are so darn big. Space on a plane, even for a 747 or an A380 is very limited, but I was just wondering what you think?

If something like this was to happen one day in, say 20 years, I wouldn't be surprised if Emirates would be the one to do it. Their first class suits look like they beat other airlines hands down (having said that, I've never flown in F with them)
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Old Mar 13, 2011 | 8:37 pm
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Weight would be prohibitive. As would effects of turbulence.
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Old Mar 13, 2011 | 8:42 pm
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Yes, that's true. I didn't think of that.

Come to think of it though, what happens when you're in the Emirates F shower and you hit turbulence? Has anyone experienced this before?
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Old Mar 13, 2011 | 9:04 pm
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There's a handle in the shower, though I don't think it would really help with turbulence. When I was taking a shower, the seatbelt light illuminated. I poked my head out and asked the attendant if I needed to get back to the seat - they told me not to worry, and that I was fine. It was only mild chop. I have no idea what would happen if severe turbulence was encountered while in the shower.
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Old Mar 14, 2011 | 12:44 am
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Originally Posted by brivido
I have no idea what would happen if severe turbulence was encountered while in the shower.
I think you'd just turn it off and get out of there. There's a big difference between a shower fed by a holding tank under pressure and an open-topped 400-gallon hot tub sloshing around during a wind shear episode.
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Old Mar 14, 2011 | 1:19 am
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Water=8.35 lbs/gallon. A smaller tub holds 50 gallons. You are talking 550lbs of weight per person taking a bath, and that is in a very un-luxurious tub. Not to eco friendly or economically realistic to burn all that fuel, at the very least for takeoff and climb and part of cruise before dumping it. The 400 gallon hot tub would weigh (just the water, not the pump or housing) 3,340 lbs.

Think what SPD or overnight air would cost on 500 lbs of shipping.

I read a figure (don't know if it's true) that the new (combined) UA uses more fuel than is produced worldwide in a day, each year. Those carbon footprint offset/credit people would have a field day with a commercial airline doing this.
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Old Mar 14, 2011 | 10:13 am
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on commercial aircraft - never

on private / charter - IIRC jacuzzis have been done

the space requirement for say a plunge pool with current would be pretty huge, even on an A380
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Maybe if dirigibles come back ...
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Originally Posted by Kagehitokiri
on commercial aircraft - never

on private / charter - IIRC jacuzzis have been done

the space requirement for say a plunge pool with current would be pretty huge, even on an A380
A private A380 has had a pool feature turned down by Airbus.
I guess I cant have everything

http://www.thelifeofluxury.com/airbus-swimming-pool/
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Old Mar 14, 2011 | 9:17 pm
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Originally Posted by Kagehitokiri
on commercial aircraft - never

on private / charter - IIRC jacuzzis have been done

the space requirement for say a plunge pool with current would be pretty huge, even on an A380
Can it be done with the pool entirely in cargo.. that means stairs down to a cavernous pool.
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Originally Posted by Kagehitokiri
on private / charter - IIRC jacuzzis have been done
I also recall that jacuzzi has been done on private jet.
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Old Mar 15, 2011 | 1:11 pm
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Originally Posted by Catweazle
I was just wondering this morning, after noticing the bathtub in the bathroom still full of water ready to be bucketed out to the garden, do you think they'll ever have a swimming pool of sorts on long-haul international flights one day? Or, at least, perhaps a warm, bubbly spa-bath?

They do on cruise ships, but that's obviously because the ships nowadays are so darn big. Space on a plane, even for a 747 or an A380 is very limited, but I was just wondering what you think?

If something like this was to happen one day in, say 20 years, I wouldn't be surprised if Emirates would be the one to do it. Their first class suits look like they beat other airlines hands down (having said that, I've never flown in F with them)
While the technology probaby exists, there is no way to make it an efficient proposition. Water is VERY heavy and the fuel costs soar..they would unlikely be offset by the fees associated with using a pool.

The only way this could happen would be if there was a cheap source of energy for the aircraft. Fusion or something like that.
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Also, a large pool would negatively impact the center of gravity of the aircraft as it sloshed around in turbulence, amplified movements, and tried to balance itself on nose up and down movement
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Old Mar 15, 2011 | 1:52 pm
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hmm, swim spas etc can be somewhat smaller than i thought - 1300 gallons

there are "smaller" yachts with plunge pools

a number of airlines have suites now, and SQ was first to have double

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Old Mar 15, 2011 | 2:53 pm
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Originally Posted by pinworm
While the technology probaby exists, there is no way to make it an efficient proposition. Water is VERY heavy and the fuel costs soar..they would unlikely be offset by the fees associated with using a pool.

The only way this could happen would be if there was a cheap source of energy for the aircraft. Fusion or something like that.
Probably a very shallow pool or a hot tub.. Likely a kiddy pool would suffice with recyclable water showers.
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