In which cities should one be especially aware of pickpockets?
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I agree- we loved Barcelona, and also treasure our memories of our trips to St. Petersburg and Rome even though my husband got his pockets picked there, too. It could happen anywhere including most large cities in the US, so you'd have to avoid an awful lot of interesting places.
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Protect your property. Beware of "friendly" strangers, and be cognizant of the opportunity that crowded places offer to pickpockets.
In general, I try not to be in very crowded places, or if I am, have my hand over my shirt pocket where my money is. And of course, don't take out more stuff than you need. When I'm traveling, I'll keep my money and valuables in the safe, and just take out what I need for that day. So, if I'm robbed, I lose a 2 year old digital camera, and maybe $50-$100.
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Yes, point taken. Sometimes you have reason to have your passport on you and you can't help that, but we should have been more vigilant.
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If I'm not flying internationally, then I don't have my passport with me.
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I have never had a problem in Buenos Aires until a few weeks ago when I was in the metro. I had a pair of trousers on which had cargo pockets closed with velcro. As it was quite busy and I was only going two stops I stood at the door next to a innocent looking chap who was facing out. I heard the noise of velcro being opened, looked down to see this guys fingers next to the pocket. I brushed them aside and he went and found a seat. His tactic was to look at the reflection of his "target" through the glass and obviously to make a fast exit should he be successful....so never stand at the door on a metro train if it's busy.
Little did he know that the bulge in my pocket wasn't a wallet but a packet of fags.
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I agree with you on keeping your guard up, though. My husband and I went to Rio in 2000 and we knew it was risky. I wore jewelry so minimal it wasn't worth stealing, nothing went in our pockets, and I didn't carry a purse or anything that looked like one. When I bought a bracelet at H. Stern it was kept hidden in a dirty sock in my suitcase till we went home. (The irony is that they sell exquisite jewelry in Rio-you just don't want to wear it on the street.) I could go walking on the beach undisturbed, but I wore only my swimsuit and a T-shirt. We had a great trip.
Sure, it stinks that the onus is on the tourist to protect against criminals, but you just have to decide which destinations are worth it.
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I have to agree with that, it seems to always happen when there is a big noisy group / running / bumping and some other sort of commotion. And yes, they are quite able to get stuff out of front pockets, as by now most tourists know (one would hope) not to carry wallets in their back pockets.
Based on actual crime witnessed, I'd rank Madrid higher, but that's probably due to total time spent in each city.
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I don't think that there are any big cities out there that don't suffer with petty thieves and they don't always target tourists - even locals get caught occasionally.
I was sitting on the terrace outside a pub near my office in London last summer and one of my friends got caught. There were four of us (two blokes, two ladies) sitting around a table and one of the girls had put her handbag on the table between us all after going to the bar to buy a round of drinks. Within 10 minutes of sitting down she noticed it had gone - literally from under the noses of the four of us. The fact that someone pinched it from middle of four people facing each other just shows how clever they are. None of us can recall any diversion tactics and no-one came to talk to us to ask for a lighter (a common tactic with pickpockets).
Laptops are also commonly lifted in bars in London - one of my colleagues caught someone trying to walk off with his laptop bag from a bar a few weeks ago. The thief just handed it back and claimed to have picked up the wrong bag but then walked out the bar empty handed so clearly was lying. The surprising thing is that he was wearing a smart suit and blended into the crowd seamlessly. Even the police would have had a hard time picking him out as a thief.
But from personal experience Barcelona is the worst for petty crime - I know several people who have had the unfortunate experience of having their wallets stolen there.
I was sitting on the terrace outside a pub near my office in London last summer and one of my friends got caught. There were four of us (two blokes, two ladies) sitting around a table and one of the girls had put her handbag on the table between us all after going to the bar to buy a round of drinks. Within 10 minutes of sitting down she noticed it had gone - literally from under the noses of the four of us. The fact that someone pinched it from middle of four people facing each other just shows how clever they are. None of us can recall any diversion tactics and no-one came to talk to us to ask for a lighter (a common tactic with pickpockets).
Laptops are also commonly lifted in bars in London - one of my colleagues caught someone trying to walk off with his laptop bag from a bar a few weeks ago. The thief just handed it back and claimed to have picked up the wrong bag but then walked out the bar empty handed so clearly was lying. The surprising thing is that he was wearing a smart suit and blended into the crowd seamlessly. Even the police would have had a hard time picking him out as a thief.
But from personal experience Barcelona is the worst for petty crime - I know several people who have had the unfortunate experience of having their wallets stolen there.
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Yes, obviously pickpockets are an issue in Barcelona and Rome and Paris and London....and just about anywhere where there are lots of targets who make good victims (lots of cash on then, cameras etc.). Should it make you more vigilant? Yes of course. Should it put you off going? Definitely not.
Btw. my own anecdote of Barcelona is completely the opposite. After spending the day sightseeing we were at the Hard Rock Café when my husband realised his wallet was missing. Fearing the worst my husband went to the police station to report it, whilst my mum and I retraced our steps. We were extremely grateful when we realised it had in fact been handed it at La Pedrera, with all it's contents. So yes, bad things can happen, but so you may also be positively surprised.
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I have spent a lot of time in crowded parts of and on public transportation of the following cities: San Francisco (thousands of hours), New York City (many dozens of hours), London (many dozens of hours), Rome (many dozens of hours), Paris (many dozens of hours). Not only have I never been successfully pick-pocketed in these cities, I've never even caught anybody trying.
On the other hand, I wasn't in Barcelona's central train station more than 10 minutes before I caught a woman trying to unzip my messenger-style laptop bag slung over my shoulder. (I wasn't foolish enough to have been carrying my laptop with me on a play-tourist day; had she successfully unzipped my bag, she would have found a turtleneck, a bottle of water, and a Nutella sandwich.)
However, that's not going to stop me from returning to Barcelona if I get a chance.
On the other hand, I wasn't in Barcelona's central train station more than 10 minutes before I caught a woman trying to unzip my messenger-style laptop bag slung over my shoulder. (I wasn't foolish enough to have been carrying my laptop with me on a play-tourist day; had she successfully unzipped my bag, she would have found a turtleneck, a bottle of water, and a Nutella sandwich.)
However, that's not going to stop me from returning to Barcelona if I get a chance.
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Hung up in your coat is just asking for trouble, though. A new passport costs something like 80-100 these days. I wouldn't leave 80 unattended in a coat, so why a passport?
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Good advice. And the trick you mention is quite popular in Manila.
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Hands down, just about any place in Vietnam, though I'm sure Hanoi and HCMC especially. Many in places like Barcelona and Amsterdam are rank amateurs (I've had problems there), but the teams in Vietnam are better-practiced.
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Again, I've been to 55 countries, and have had hardly any problems. I often to go third world countries, and other places on this thread that there have been lots of reports of pickpockets.
I think a lot of it has to do with not being an easy target. In the last 10 years, I've spent a total of 5 years in many of the places mentioned here. Never lost a penny. I have been overcharged by taxis a few times, but that's hard to avoid.
Mostly, just don't take out more than you can afford to lose. Whether you're in a Brazilian favela, the worst part of Lima, or London, always figure you're target, and protect your belongings accordingly.
I think a lot of it has to do with not being an easy target. In the last 10 years, I've spent a total of 5 years in many of the places mentioned here. Never lost a penny. I have been overcharged by taxis a few times, but that's hard to avoid.
Mostly, just don't take out more than you can afford to lose. Whether you're in a Brazilian favela, the worst part of Lima, or London, always figure you're target, and protect your belongings accordingly.

