Weights and balances
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Weights and balances
During my recent flight, the captain announced that he took excess fuel and wanted the weight distribution adjusted in an almost full flight. A passenger was kicked out and the flight attended sent a couple of passengers back and brough one forward. Years back, in a near empty big airliner (only 6 passengers!), we were all asked to go to the back of the plane.
My questions:
1) Is the "weight distribution/balance" arbitarily determined or is there a gadget in the cockpit that indicates plane weight imbalance?
2) In an otherwise full plane carrying over 60 people, does the "re-distribution" of a couple of people make a difference?
3) Has there been any incidence where imbalance played a role in any accident?
My questions:
1) Is the "weight distribution/balance" arbitarily determined or is there a gadget in the cockpit that indicates plane weight imbalance?
2) In an otherwise full plane carrying over 60 people, does the "re-distribution" of a couple of people make a difference?
3) Has there been any incidence where imbalance played a role in any accident?
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2) In an otherwise full plane carrying over 60 people, does the "re-distribution" of a couple of people make a difference?
I bet you never thought of yourself as human ballast, did you?
3) Has there been any incidence where imbalance played a role in any accident?
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This thread reminds me of the dirty look I got from a pilot on a very small plane.
I was taking pictures out of my window and then leaning across the aisle to take them out the other window.
I guess I was rocking the plane and he noticed. I'm only 5'11" and 180lbs though.
I was taking pictures out of my window and then leaning across the aisle to take them out the other window.
I guess I was rocking the plane and he noticed. I'm only 5'11" and 180lbs though.
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2) In an otherwise full plane carrying over 60 people, does the "re-distribution" of a couple of people make a difference?
3) Has there been any incidence where imbalance played a role in any accident?
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When the Jet Blue A320 with the nose wheel stuck perpendicular to the position it should be for landing was flying around before landing, they moved the passengers and carry on baggage to the back of the plane before landing.
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On my last rj flight the FA counted the fiurst 4rows and I guess it was too many for the overall capacity so she had to rebalance to the back. I guess its just basic counting of pax within certain rows.
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Thanks for answering but another question
Thanks for answering but another question-this question is unrelated and may appear strange and silly.
Almost as a rule baggage handlers appear to load the luggage on the "wrong" side (of the luggage, for example with the pocket side of a suitcase down and the flat side up). After seeing this a few times, I don't leave anything crushable, sqeezable, breakable, in suitcase pockets. I have seen at times, even when the suitcase seems to be on its flat side, handlers turning it otherway.
Is there a logical reason or just the "revenge of the baggage handlers"?
Almost as a rule baggage handlers appear to load the luggage on the "wrong" side (of the luggage, for example with the pocket side of a suitcase down and the flat side up). After seeing this a few times, I don't leave anything crushable, sqeezable, breakable, in suitcase pockets. I have seen at times, even when the suitcase seems to be on its flat side, handlers turning it otherway.
Is there a logical reason or just the "revenge of the baggage handlers"?
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Recently had a return flight from SYD-SFO cancelled due to equip. Had to stay one extra day and was happily put on same flight 24 hrs later. Res was in C class (UAL).
After boarding for the return flight, there was a delay to manage the load. All passengers in the second section of the C class seats on our 777 were reassigned to seats on the perimeter of the plane. A number of families were separated. Once accomplished, we took off with all 16 center seats empty.
Once meal service was complete and lights turned down, primarily all of those 16 seats were occupied by FA's who slept/lounged until just before lights turned on for pre-landing services at which time they all disappeared.
Strange?
After boarding for the return flight, there was a delay to manage the load. All passengers in the second section of the C class seats on our 777 were reassigned to seats on the perimeter of the plane. A number of families were separated. Once accomplished, we took off with all 16 center seats empty.
Once meal service was complete and lights turned down, primarily all of those 16 seats were occupied by FA's who slept/lounged until just before lights turned on for pre-landing services at which time they all disappeared.
Strange?

