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Yep, you can hear it if you're listening to a tower or ramp where it is. I've done this a few times, but never on channel 9, only on on my radios. Its kind of interesting, because the AF actually replaces the tower controllers with AF controllers while the aircraft is present, so you'll hear some interesting accents sometimes.
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Even in private sector corporate environments there are times when senior management will allow administrative support staff to push out print-outs but not let them see it.
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I've listened to AF1 both via liveatc.net when it is at SFO and on UA's Ch9* both on the while taxiing at SFO** an while flying en-route and it is quite exciting to hear but iirc, the tower controllers at SFO were the same voices I've always heard (unless the controller has an evil twin bother with the same voice
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*In both cases, the Captain made a point to announce it for anyone listening ^.
**Taxiing up until the mandatory ground stop until AF1 taxis and takes off.
)*In both cases, the Captain made a point to announce it for anyone listening ^.
**Taxiing up until the mandatory ground stop until AF1 taxis and takes off.
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It does sound dysfunctional, but it's a result of different people having different levels in terms of security clearances and different skill-sets for different people.
Even in private sector corporate environments there are times when senior management will allow administrative support staff to push out print-outs but not let them see it.
Even in private sector corporate environments there are times when senior management will allow administrative support staff to push out print-outs but not let them see it.
about Xerox created the most advanced desktop computer system (alto, and star)about 20 years ago. they sold it to mac, and it became the Lisa. they also solld them the graphic inteeface and the mouse. at about the same time charles siminoni at xerox created "Bravo". the forerunner of word. he wrote word. simoni went to microsoft with bravo. he owns an island near seattle, a couple of helicopters, and took a trip in space. my wife was the analyst for that machine and software. she refused to go to seattle.
when WH equipment broke, top half of xerox bldng in royslin was cleared, facing buildings were cleared, all by secret service. she would print the stuff to a remote printer. all residue was confiscated. took about 50 or so SS agents, and a huge traffic jam. she did similar things for other agencies for top secret documents. she had highest level of civilian clearance, but that was not near good enough. sure wish she would have gone to MS.
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talking about af1 security
particularly during the bush era, a group of about 6 helicopters would depart andrews, fly over to and down suitland parkway(not the potomac) and back. about an hour later, an AF1 would take off from andrews, and if north, turn and run up or down the beltway very loW and slow. happened at least once a week.
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Just follow the #AF1 hashtag on Twitter for some interesting tidbits on Air Force 1 operations: https://twitter.com/#!/search?q=%23AF1
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Posting to this old but helpful thread because one of the AF1 747's just flew over my house at maybe 3-4,000 feet, that was impressive, and I was able to watch it long enough to see it make the turn for Andrews (I presume). No idea if anyone is on board today. I live north of the beltway and don't see much KAFB traffic. I jumped online to see if I could track it. The consensus seems to be: maybe. Flightaware as a policy does not track military aircraft. Flightradar24 is Swedish and you can see military aircraft but the identity reads "blocked". There are some others that may have various policies (planefinder.net, etc). Based on other reports in the airline nerd forums apparently AF1 may or may not have it's transponder on depending on location, situation, etc. All in all pretty cool stuff.
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Posting to this old but helpful thread because one of the AF1 747's just flew over my house at maybe 3-4,000 feet, that was impressive, and I was able to watch it long enough to see it make the turn for Andrews (I presume). No idea if anyone is on board today. I live north of the beltway and don't see much KAFB traffic. I jumped online to see if I could track it. The consensus seems to be: maybe. Flightaware as a policy does not track military aircraft. Flightradar24 is Swedish and you can see military aircraft but the identity reads "blocked". There are some others that may have various policies (planefinder.net, etc). Based on other reports in the airline nerd forums apparently AF1 may or may not have it's transponder on depending on location, situation, etc. All in all pretty cool stuff.
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Posting to this old but helpful thread because one of the AF1 747's just flew over my house at maybe 3-4,000 feet, that was impressive, and I was able to watch it long enough to see it make the turn for Andrews (I presume). No idea if anyone is on board today. I live north of the beltway and don't see much KAFB traffic. I jumped online to see if I could track it. The consensus seems to be: maybe. Flightaware as a policy does not track military aircraft. Flightradar24 is Swedish and you can see military aircraft but the identity reads "blocked". There are some others that may have various policies (planefinder.net, etc). Based on other reports in the airline nerd forums apparently AF1 may or may not have it's transponder on depending on location, situation, etc. All in all pretty cool stuff.
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