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Keter Aug 31, 2010 3:24 am

Back to ticketing date benefits:

Here in Russia, KLM will start a big sale tomorrow. It is not possible to see the fares now, but I am sure this have already been loaded and it is possible to see those in GDSs by specifying a ticketing date (ie tomorrow).

Knowledge is a power;)

ExpertFlyer Voice Aug 31, 2010 8:50 am


Originally Posted by Keter (Post 14576269)
Back to ticketing date benefits:

Here in Russia, KLM will start a big sale tomorrow. It is not possible to see the fares now, but I am sure this have already been loaded and it is possible to see those in GDSs by specifying a ticketing date (ie tomorrow).

Knowledge is a power;)

Understood. We may have found a way to do this. I don't want to make any promises but we'll dive into it when we get to adjusting our fare searches.

FriendlySkies Aug 31, 2010 12:19 pm

I'm trying to look at a seat map on a few UA flights. When I select First or Economy, I get the following error:


There is no reserved seating for this flight.
Any ideas?

ExpertFlyer Voice Aug 31, 2010 12:27 pm


Originally Posted by FriendlySkies (Post 14578808)
I'm trying to look at a seat map on a few UA flights. When I select First or Economy, I get the following error:
Any ideas?

It means that UA isn't allowing the pre-reservation of seats on that flight for whatever reason, so it's returning that error instead of a seat map.

FriendlySkies Aug 31, 2010 12:28 pm


Originally Posted by ExpertFlyer Voice (Post 14578861)
It means that UA isn't allowing the pre-reservation of seats on that flight for whatever reason, so it's returning that error instead of a seat map.

hmm, thanks for the answer! I can still see the seats on .bomb, so I'll just keep an eye out there.

Thanks for the program. Expert Flyer is very helpful to me!

ExpertFlyer Voice Aug 31, 2010 12:36 pm


Originally Posted by FriendlySkies (Post 14578876)
hmm, thanks for the answer! I can still see the seats on .bomb, so I'll just keep an eye out there.

Thanks for the program. Expert Flyer is very helpful to me!

Your welcome! Yes sometimes airlines choose not to allow reserved seating via GDSs but will still show a seat map on the website. Airlines are fun like that.

Please email the flight/date information to [email protected] so we can do some research on it, thanks.

FriendlySkies Aug 31, 2010 12:39 pm


Originally Posted by ExpertFlyer Voice (Post 14578933)
Your welcome! Yes sometimes airlines choose not to allow reserved seating via GDSs but will still show a seat map on the website. Airlines are fun like that.

Please email the flight/date information to [email protected] so we can do some research on it, thanks.

The weird thing is that seat maps were available this morning.. I'll send an email just so you can take a look. Thanks for the help :)

pbd456 Sep 4, 2010 12:19 am

Hello. A new subscriber.

Did you say some where that KLM award could be available soon? It would be a welcome news as I need to find ways to get rid of my skymiles!!! :(

BTW, I did find some O inventory in AF to display in delta.com. expertflyer is very useful in finding those.

ExpertFlyer Voice Sep 4, 2010 9:06 am


Originally Posted by pbd456 (Post 14600985)
Hello. A new subscriber.

Did you say some where that KLM award could be available soon? It would be a welcome news as I need to find ways to get rid of my skymiles!!! :(

BTW, I did find some O inventory in AF to display in delta.com. expertflyer is very useful in finding those.

Welcome! Possibly, it's dependent on a few things that are out of our control at the moment. If we do we'll let you know.

Glad to hear we were able to help!

BobbySteel Sep 6, 2010 9:32 am

Would it be possible to surface the sub-data for aircraft type for BA flights?

Point in question - the new First 777-336 appears as 77N in BA's system. On expertflyer.mobi, I can see 77N under the plane type on a seatmap query. However, on the .com site, I cannot find 77N listed anywhere for the same flights, just 777. It'd be nice at least under the "info" button (where you list flying time) if this is possible to display w/o requiring a separate query.

hillrider Sep 6, 2010 9:39 am


Originally Posted by BobbySteel (Post 14610303)
Would it be possible to surface the sub-data for aircraft type for BA flights?

Point in question - the new First 777-336 appears as 77N in BA's system. On expertflyer.mobi, I can see 77N under the plane type on a seatmap query. However, on the .com site, I cannot find 77N listed anywhere for the same flights, just 777. It'd be nice at least under the "info" button (where you list flying time) if this is possible to display w/o requiring a separate query.

Do you have a specific example of a 77N (flight number/date)?

ExpertFlyer Voice Sep 6, 2010 10:49 am


Originally Posted by BobbySteel (Post 14610303)
Would it be possible to surface the sub-data for aircraft type for BA flights?

Point in question - the new First 777-336 appears as 77N in BA's system. On expertflyer.mobi, I can see 77N under the plane type on a seatmap query. However, on the .com site, I cannot find 77N listed anywhere for the same flights, just 777. It'd be nice at least under the "info" button (where you list flying time) if this is possible to display w/o requiring a separate query.

Are you saying that you did a Seat Map search and you got two different equipment types for the same flight depending on which version of EF you were using? Or that the equipment type was different in the Seat Map vs the Flight Details or Flight Availability search? Can you list a specific example?

Keter Sep 17, 2010 4:24 am

Back to RBD Chart 2:

EF shows a ZERO fare on PK from KHI to MEX. The fare is MPM and has no flight restrictions. The only information available now is that the travel should be via Pacific.

Unlikely anyone needs it (miles, origin, economy class etc), however there are more expensive fares with same rules, so there is a chance that the fare is bookable.

So if anyone is able to find booking classes for secondary carriers (stored in RBD Chart 2 of the fare) then that would give us the answer if the fare is bookable.

Keter Sep 17, 2010 4:28 am

Domestic US fares
 
It looks like some information is still missing in fare screen:

For example, OW fares from NYC to MIA show a number of cheap Y-UP type fares which are not bookable (and this fares are shown as 'B' = business). Unfortunately the routing rules for US-domestic fares do not show applicable booking classes, which I think may answer the question in this case (the primary booking class [shown on main fare search screen] for Y-UP fares is usually amended by other letters in routing rules).

Any ideas if this is resolvable?

ExpertFlyer Voice Sep 17, 2010 9:48 am


Originally Posted by Keter (Post 14677780)
Back to RBD Chart 2:

EF shows a ZERO fare on PK from KHI to MEX. The fare is MPM and has no flight restrictions. The only information available now is that the travel should be via Pacific.

Unlikely anyone needs it (miles, origin, economy class etc), however there are more expensive fares with same rules, so there is a chance that the fare is bookable.

So if anyone is able to find booking classes for secondary carriers (stored in RBD Chart 2 of the fare) then that would give us the answer if the fare is bookable.

There is no RBD2 chart for that fare, so it's probably an error in the fare submission by PK. The fact that it's $0 would also indicate that.


Originally Posted by Keter (Post 14677787)
It looks like some information is still missing in fare screen:

For example, OW fares from NYC to MIA show a number of cheap Y-UP type fares which are not bookable (and this fares are shown as 'B' = business). Unfortunately the routing rules for US-domestic fares do not show applicable booking classes, which I think may answer the question in this case (the primary booking class [shown on main fare search screen] for Y-UP fares is usually amended by other letters in routing rules).

Any ideas if this is resolvable?

What makes you think the Y-Up fares are non-bookable? The booking class doesn't show because it isn't returned to us. It isn't returned to us for any US domestic fare however for non YUP fares we cheat and use the first letter of the Fare Basis. Once we switch sources for Routing Rules, the booking class will be in there.


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