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IAkH Mar 8, 2015 5:05 am

Introducing WhereToCredit.com
 
Some friends and I have always had a problem figuring out where the best place to credit certain flights have been. After United's devaluation, that is especially true now for many of us. I made a platform for us to enter mileage accrual for different airlines, and figured I'd share it with the community so everybody can help and everybody can benefit.

http://www.wheretocredit.com

To quickly check any airline's fare code:
Code:

http://www.wheretocredit.com/[2-letter-airline-code]

-OR-

http://www.wheretocredit.com/[2-letter-airline-code]/[1-letter-fare-code]


BenA Mar 8, 2015 5:42 am

Awesome site! Unfortunately, I don't see a way to enter revenue based earnings for airlines like DL and UA yet - I was going to add the DL chart for you, but didn't see a way to do it. Is that in the plans?

BenA Mar 8, 2015 5:44 am

Also, a way to add 500 mile minimums would be helpful.

BenA Mar 8, 2015 5:50 am

I'm also having trouble adding a new chart. I filled out the full DL-on-AS chart and tried to save it, but got an error when submitting. I even tried removing all the comments, dates and the URL, leaving just the numbers for earning and the airline names - no dice. :( Might want to check the logs?

IAkH Mar 8, 2015 8:57 am


Originally Posted by BenA (Post 24473301)
I'm also having trouble adding a new chart. I filled out the full DL-on-AS chart and tried to save it, but got an error when submitting. I even tried removing all the comments, dates and the URL, leaving just the numbers for earning and the airline names - no dice. :( Might want to check the logs?

Hi there! Sorry about the bug, and thanks for trying to contribute.

I think I found and fixed it. If you still have the page open, you should be able to just re-save without having to retype everything.

Thanks again, and feel free to report bugs in this thread or by PM.

IAkH Mar 8, 2015 9:07 am


Originally Posted by BenA (Post 24473277)
Awesome site! Unfortunately, I don't see a way to enter revenue based earnings for airlines like DL and UA yet - I was going to add the DL chart for you, but didn't see a way to do it. Is that in the plans?

There's no way to add revenue based earnings right now. I'm open to the idea of adding it if there is enough demand, but I don't see an easy way to represent the information since so much of that depends on your status, and it would be like comparing apples to oranges.

Originally Posted by BenA (Post 24473286)
Also, a way to add 500 mile minimums would be helpful.

Another great suggestion! I considered adding it separately, but I also figured people could add it as a note. Let me mull this one over and see how it could be displayed

IAkH Mar 14, 2015 3:12 am

wheretocredit.com should now have more or less the complete Star Alliance mileage earning charts (minus NZ). However, a quick look through seems like a some of the data points aren't 100% accurate. Anyways, it should give you a pretty good starting point and also a link to each chart to verify any info. If you find any mistakes, feel free to fix it for the rest of us :) Thanks and enjoy!

jerryhung Mar 19, 2015 9:54 pm

Did I miss it? no Delta in the dropdown?

I'm testing where to credit my cheap Delta V class now, since AS cuts its earning to 50% now (probably still better than Delta Skypesos)

fuyao Mar 21, 2015 11:46 pm

Really great idea once all the data is included.
For example VA don't have anything listed for crediting to DL

IAkH Mar 23, 2015 2:51 am


Originally Posted by jerryhung (Post 24535852)
Did I miss it? no Delta in the dropdown?

I'm testing where to credit my cheap Delta V class now, since AS cuts its earning to 50% now (probably still better than Delta Skypesos)


Originally Posted by fuyao (Post 24545399)
Really great idea once all the data is included.
For example VA don't have anything listed for crediting to DL

I'm working through all *A right now. It's taking quite some time as there are nearly 600 combinations.

The data is currently available for anybody to edit, so if there's something you want to see/compare, feel free to add it for your and others' benefits! :D

Thanks!

ETA: After *A, I'll start OW and ST. Not sure which first since I don't fly either, but I'm happy to take requests here.

Mikity Mar 28, 2015 8:17 am

Cool site, thanks for posting!

IAkH Jun 11, 2015 4:31 am

Happy to report that crediting to SkyTeam is finished! I'm pretty happy with the results this time. :D

Up next, OW and maybe some unaffiliated airlines. Then I'll go back and fix up *A last.

iep Jun 15, 2015 2:50 am

some improvements
 
Nice site, the idea is pretty good, while checking I'm thinking of 2 improvements

1) allow sorting function that shows highest earning % first
2) allow user accounts where people add their frequent flyer card + status, so the list can be limited to relevant credit %

IAkH Jun 15, 2015 2:56 pm


Originally Posted by iep (Post 24971531)
Nice site, the idea is pretty good, while checking I'm thinking of 2 improvements

1) allow sorting function that shows highest earning % first
2) allow user accounts where people add their frequent flyer card + status, so the list can be limited to relevant credit %

Thanks for the great ideas! I can add the sorting pretty quickly, but accounts/custom views will probably not happen until I finish inputting all the data in. I'll keep everybody updated here

fuyao Jun 26, 2015 2:07 am


Originally Posted by IAkH (Post 24974694)
Thanks for the great ideas! I can add the sorting pretty quickly, but accounts/custom views will probably not happen until I finish inputting all the data in. I'll keep everybody updated here

Thx! Let us know in case we can help. Just played around with some TK flights and realized that there is no m&m or aeroplan...
i.e.: http://www.wheretocredit.com/turkish-airlines/p

mrgreen Jun 26, 2015 8:00 am

Would be cool if after choosing airline and class the result would be displayed immediately without having to push the "show me!" button :)

IAkH Jun 27, 2015 6:19 am


Originally Posted by fuyao (Post 25029343)
Thx! Let us know in case we can help. Just played around with some TK flights and realized that there is no m&m or aeroplan...
i.e.: http://www.wheretocredit.com/turkish-airlines/p

Generally it means that it wouldn't earn miles, but it doesn't hurt to check:
https://www.miles-and-more.com/onlin...en&cid=1000359
https://www4.aeroplan.com/earn_miles...urkishAirlines

Originally Posted by mrgreen (Post 25030236)
Would be cool if after choosing airline and class the result would be displayed immediately without having to push the "show me!" button :)

Not a bad idea. I'll add it to my todo list ^

IAkH Jul 3, 2015 5:11 am

Just a quick update. All OneWorld airline programs have been complete :D We should have all 3 major alliances completed now (yay!)

There are a few alliance programs I couldn't add because they either don't provide award charts or I couldn't find them:
  • TAM Linhas Aéreas
  • Air New Zealand
  • Royal Jordanian
If anybody can find charts for the above I'm happy to include them

Next, I plan to add the following "major" independent programs (in no particular order):
  • Jet Airways
  • Hawaiian Airlines
  • Etihad Airways
  • Emirates
  • Virgin Atlantic
  • Gol Transportes Aéreos
  • Fiji Airways
  • Virgin Australia
Additional FFP requests welcome

I'll also start adding some of those features you guys are asking for

jerryhung Jul 3, 2015 9:19 am

Thanks for the great work!!

Madone59 Jul 8, 2015 3:33 pm

Cool site! Will it eventually include non alliances like the AS partnerships?

IAkH Jul 9, 2015 2:39 am


Originally Posted by Madone59 (Post 25089007)
Cool site! Will it eventually include non alliances like the AS partnerships?

Thanks for your interest!

AS should be added (let me know if I'm missing anybody)

I also finished with EK, EY and VA. I'll make sure the bigger non-alliance programs in the list above are added, but feel free to request ones I don't have listed.

jumbooze Jul 9, 2015 9:18 am

The SAS earning table for United is showing 200% for P but it has now changed to 100%.
Thanks for a great site!

pencereamelesi Jul 9, 2015 11:35 am

Great work!
Thanks.

IAkH Jul 10, 2015 3:20 am


Originally Posted by jumbooze (Post 25092189)
The SAS earning table for United is showing 200% for P but it has now changed to 100%.
Thanks for a great site!

Thanks for the report ^ Should be fixed now

pencereamelesi Jul 10, 2015 6:55 am

Changes on SQ
 
SQ changes some of their mileage accrual classes as of Jul, 1st.
For example; AC-K Class earn 50% instead of 100%.

KrisFlyer mileage accrual chart

pencereamelesi Jul 10, 2015 7:01 am

IAkH,
I want to give a suggestion for displaying table. Is it possible to add IATA Code of airlines to this view ?

IAkH Jul 10, 2015 8:47 am


Originally Posted by pencereamelesi (Post 25096725)
IAkH,
I want to give a suggestion for displaying table. Is it possible to add IATA Code of airlines to this view ?

done ;)


Originally Posted by pencereamelesi (Post 25096698)
SQ changes some of their mileage accrual classes as of Jul, 1st.
For example; AC-K Class earn 50% instead of 100%.

KrisFlyer mileage accrual chart

Thanks, I'll update it ASAP

pencereamelesi Jul 10, 2015 10:08 am


Originally Posted by IAkH (Post 25097171)
done ;)

Wow!

Thanks for quick development, I'm totally impressed :)

IAkH Jul 10, 2015 10:43 am


Originally Posted by pencereamelesi (Post 25096698)
SQ changes some of their mileage accrual classes as of Jul, 1st.
For example; AC-K Class earn 50% instead of 100%.

KrisFlyer mileage accrual chart

Fixed as well

Originally Posted by pencereamelesi (Post 25097617)
Wow!

Thanks for quick development, I'm totally impressed :)

You're welcome! and thank you for the reports ^

Tim nice but dim Jul 14, 2015 1:48 pm

Thumbs up for the great work! I gave you a link from pointstobemade.com.

IAkH Jul 14, 2015 2:20 pm


Originally Posted by Tim nice but dim (Post 25116802)
Thumbs up for the great work! I gave you a link from pointstobemade.com.

Thanks for the link! :D Very generous article and great additional tips ^

kaarlows Jul 14, 2015 8:41 pm

Help with TAM
 

Originally Posted by IAkH (Post 25063767)
Just a quick update. All OneWorld airline programs have been complete :D We should have all 3 major alliances completed now (yay!)

There are a few alliance programs I couldn't add because they either don't provide award charts or I couldn't find them:
  • TAM Linhas Aéreas
  • Air New Zealand
  • Royal Jordanian
If anybody can find charts for the above I'm happy to include them

Hi there IAkH!

First of all, congratulations for this superb tool you made available for us. ^^^ Indeed checking where to credit miles for a specific flight was at many times something not only boring, but also time consuming.

I'm a FF from Brazil, and although I don't use TAM nowadays (I hate them to the heart), I can help you filling up their information. Even in the Portuguese website, this information is well hidden into their Terms and Conditions.

IAkH Jul 15, 2015 4:04 am


Originally Posted by kaarlows (Post 25118503)
Hi there IAkH!

First of all, congratulations for this superb tool you made available for us. ^^^ Indeed checking where to credit miles for a specific flight was at many times something not only boring, but also time consuming.

I'm a FF from Brazil, and although I don't use TAM nowadays (I hate them to the heart), I can help you filling up their information. Even in the Portuguese website, this information is well hidden into their Terms and Conditions.

Hey thanks for your support. I'd love your help with TAM, either by pointing me to the link with the information or if you don't mind breaking it down, a PM with each fare basis and earning % would be best. I can enter it into the site from there. Thanks again!

IAkH Jul 15, 2015 2:36 pm

Big(gish) updates today. Added a few new features including:
  • Sorting by earning rate (yay)
  • Google translate widget for our international friends
  • Report outdated info button (when you hover over the list on desktop or when you click an item on mobile)

Sorting was a big thing people requested, so hopefully this will work for those that needed it.

Not 100% on Google translate yet, since sometimes it comes out pretty comical. But I figured it's better than nothing and you can keep it in English if you prefer it. Only users with non-English regions will see this option.

I'm hoping the report button will help keep out stale info, so feel free to report anything you notice that's outdated.

Thanks again for all the great feedback and ideas. Keep them coming

IAkH Jul 17, 2015 10:04 am


Originally Posted by kaarlows (Post 25118503)
Hi there IAkH!

First of all, congratulations for this superb tool you made available for us. ^^^ Indeed checking where to credit miles for a specific flight was at many times something not only boring, but also time consuming.

I'm a FF from Brazil, and although I don't use TAM nowadays (I hate them to the heart), I can help you filling up their information. Even in the Portuguese website, this information is well hidden into their Terms and Conditions.

Huuuge thanks to kaarlows for finding and updating the TAM charts!! ^^^

I've added them to the site as well as fixed a few of the reports that have been coming in. Thanks all who are helping to build a useful resource for frequent fliers all over the world :)

mrgreen Jul 21, 2015 8:51 am

I like how you constantly add features to the website :)
I is an amazing time savier to decide where to credit miles in comparison to the usual process of checking airline pages for minutes and calculating miles manually. :)

Another suggestion: what about entering 2 destinations and automatic mile calculation based on the FFPs' multipliers? :)

JamilD Jul 21, 2015 8:55 am

Is there a REST/JSON API for this, or a way to export the data? Amazing work!

I had a similar idea that I started work on, but never got to releasing it :) It had a mileage calculator too between two cities that would determine the total EQM/RDM for a given city pair, airline, and booking code -- if you'd like the code and data for that I'd love to help out.

IAkH Jul 21, 2015 9:52 am


Originally Posted by mrgreen (Post 25149634)
I like how you constantly add features to the website :)
I is an amazing time savier to decide where to credit miles in comparison to the usual process of checking airline pages for minutes and calculating miles manually. :)

Another suggestion: what about entering 2 destinations and automatic mile calculation based on the FFPs' multipliers? :)

Thanks! I think somebody had already mentioned it, and its on my to-do list ;)

Originally Posted by JamilD (Post 25149663)
Is there a REST/JSON API for this, or a way to export the data? Amazing work!

I had a similar idea that I started work on, but never got to releasing it :) It had a mileage calculator too between two cities that would determine the total EQM/RDM for a given city pair, airline, and booking code -- if you'd like the code and data for that I'd love to help out.

I'm considering turning this into a web app with a REST back-end powering it. Since I'm using a free server, I hope that it'll lower my bandwidth usage significantly. The only thing holding me off is I'm a little behind on my SEO best practices and I'm not sure if Google will be able to index client-side rendering (any ideas?).

I'm trying to find a good source for airports as well. I have an airport database compiled from openflights, etc. but it's leaves a lot to be desired. I'm trying to avoid having to maintain both earning tables and airports as well - surprisingly challenging. It'd be great if gcmaps had an API, but I couldn't find one. It'll eventually get there.

JamilD Jul 21, 2015 12:54 pm


Originally Posted by IAkH (Post 25150032)
Thanks! I think somebody had already mentioned it, and its on my to-do list ;)

I'm considering turning this into a web app with a REST back-end powering it. Since I'm using a free server, I hope that it'll lower my bandwidth usage significantly. The only thing holding me off is I'm a little behind on my SEO best practices and I'm not sure if Google will be able to index client-side rendering (any ideas?).

I'm trying to find a good source for airports as well. I have an airport database compiled from openflights, etc. but it's leaves a lot to be desired. I'm trying to avoid having to maintain both earning tables and airports as well - surprisingly challenging. It'd be great if gcmaps had an API, but I couldn't find one. It'll eventually get there.

That's a good point -- Google's crawlers won't grab anything if it's served by AJAX, but hopefully any important keywords or information will be static HTML anyway, and will be indexed by Google. That being said, your approach seems to mirror statusmatcher.com, which does a great job of appearing in the Google search results if I search, say, "Airline X to Airline Y status match".

Yeah, I went with OpenFlights for my data and it was pretty limited -- I compiled a few Mongo docs / JSON with some data from it: https://github.com/Jamil/metal/tree/master/data/json (ignore fare_class.json -- it was an experiment and I failed where you succeeded :P). I love the idea of crowdsourcing the data, which works really effectively especially with a helpful and active community like FT :)

With regard to bandwidth, I'd suggest using an Amazon EC2 instance, which is part of the phenomenal Amazon Web Services (AWS). It's basically like your own personal server, with unlimited bandwidth -- the least powerful instance (still plenty to serve a web app) is free for a year, and something like $30/yr afterwards. They're offering free credit of $100 too, just PM me and I'll send you the link (and if you just want to chat some more about the web app!)


EDIT: One thing I did get done on my API was the mileage distance calculator. OpenFlights did have enough information for that….just need the lat/long and then use the Haversine formula. Try, say, http://crosswind.io/api/distance?airports=YYZ,MIA,PTY

Rusdude Jul 27, 2015 9:15 am

Thanks to IAkH for this very useful tool and, especially, being very quick with updates!

This is such a time-saver, I'm pretty surprised a site like ExpertFlyer hadn't done something like that.


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