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airoli Aug 6, 2015 6:45 am

This is an amazing tool, thanks a lot to the development team! ^

I'll add a link to it to www.airoli.com shortly so my friends can find it, too.

IAkH Aug 7, 2015 10:58 am


Originally Posted by airoli (Post 25229776)
This is an amazing tool, thanks a lot to the development team! ^

I'll add a link to it to www.airoli.com shortly so my friends can find it, too.

Hey thanks for the link! Glad you like it :D

Madone59 Aug 11, 2015 12:15 pm


Originally Posted by IAkH (Post 25090986)
AS should be added (let me know if I'm missing anybody)

Looks great ^^

airoli Aug 11, 2015 4:53 pm


Originally Posted by IAkH (Post 25236292)
Hey thanks for the link! Glad you like it :D

You're welcome - keep up the good work! The link is there now.

kaarlows Aug 27, 2015 9:43 am

There's a new partnership validated, which is between Korean Air and GOL.

Here's the accrual table for GOL flights into Skypass:
https://www.koreanair.com/global/en/...s/gol-airlines

And here's the accrual table for Korean Air flights into Smiles:
https://www.smiles.com.br/koreanair

On a side, I'd like to note that many booking classes are missing for flights of Swiss and Lufthansa into Aegean Miles+Bonus. Mostly those booking classes don't give miles into A3, but it would be good if at least it would be indicated there as 0% accrual.

And once again, thanks a lot for the awesome tool. I've been using it constantly.

IAkH Aug 28, 2015 6:33 am


Originally Posted by kaarlows (Post 25336209)
...

Thanks! I'm away for a few days, but I'll post here when they've been updated

IAkH Sep 7, 2015 2:31 am


Originally Posted by kaarlows (Post 25336209)
There's a new partnership validated, which is between Korean Air and GOL.

Thanks again for this message and for everybody else's continued alerts when something goes out of date. I've fixed several issues today, including this one. This site couldn't be possible without everybody's help and continued support! It really shows what's possible when frequent fliers around the world work together :)


Originally Posted by kaarlows (Post 25336209)
On a side, I'd like to note that many booking classes are missing for flights of Swiss and Lufthansa into Aegean Miles+Bonus. Mostly those booking classes don't give miles into A3, but it would be good if at least it would be indicated there as 0% accrual.

I agree. The main reasons I originally left this off was because as we were entering data, it was impossible to know which booking classes actually existed for each airline. We could only go with what the sites told us and some specified that they credited 0% while others didn't say anything if they didn't earn anything. Now that we have a complete list, it makes sense to also display the programs that don't earn anything, both for reference and in case it has changed.

The question then becomes, should each of these 0%s have their own separate row? Or should I combine everything that earns 0% into a single line item to save some space? My fear is that it could get quite unwieldy (especially on the airline pages without a specific booking class) if every airline had a 0% line item. I'd be grateful to hear the communities' thoughts on this one!

Madone59 Sep 10, 2015 3:06 pm

I have continued to use this site, and wanted to give it another ^

fly7b2 Sep 12, 2015 11:17 am

Just found this site and I'm glad I did. Super helpful!

IAkH Sep 16, 2015 2:36 am


Originally Posted by IAkH (Post 25387226)
We could only go with what the sites told us and some specified that they credited 0% while others didn't say anything if they didn't earn anything. Now that we have a complete list, it makes sense to also display the programs that don't earn anything, both for reference and in case it has changed.

I added a list of all programs at the bottom of each screen so you can easily see all programs in one place.

Thanks @Madone59 @fly7b2!

IAkH Sep 28, 2015 12:57 pm

Good new all, I [finally ;)] added revenue based earnings! UA and DL should both be showing now (any other ones you guys want to see?). Keep in mind, it will only show the base earnings (5 x $), but that's true for % flow as well.

I also added fixed miles and mileage minimums :D You should start noticing them pop up as I go through the existing charts.

kaarlows Sep 30, 2015 4:57 pm

New partnership: TAP and GOL
 
There's a new partnership, effective from tomorrow, which is between TAP Portugal and GOL Airlines.

The accrual table is available here:
https://www.smiles.com.br/tap-portugal

It's important to say that accrual is valid only from TAP to GOL and not the other way around. And while I think it's a waste to your travelled miles, in some specific cases it might be useful.

IAkH Oct 5, 2015 3:41 am


Originally Posted by kaarlows (Post 25500878)
There's a new partnership, effective from tomorrow, which is between TAP Portugal and GOL Airlines.

The accrual table is available here:
https://www.smiles.com.br/tap-portugal

It's important to say that accrual is valid only from TAP to GOL and not the other way around. And while I think it's a waste to your travelled miles, in some specific cases it might be useful.

Thanks again! I had already added http://www.flytap.com/Portugal/en/Victoria/partners/gol but not the other way around. Should show up shortly :)

IAkH Nov 12, 2015 8:29 am

This is mainly for developers, but I finally published API docs today! You can find them here: http://www.wheretocredit.com/api

I'd love to hear if anybody decides to build anything with it! And as always, feel free to post or PM me questions

trijet Nov 24, 2015 11:45 pm

Hi and thanks for this great tool!

I thought that a table output like in the example would be neat:
Especially with a tool like MS Excel's "Conditional Format" (it might or might not be doable), wheretocredit would become much more useful, when deciding on a new FFP.
For example someone who is flying CX a lot, might also consider Finnair's FFP, which can be seen at first glance.

Code:

cx        a        b        c        d        e        f        h        i        j        k        l        m        n        o        q        r        s        v        w        y
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
9w        150        100        125        125        110        150        100        125        125        50        50        50        0        0        0        110        0        50        110        100
aa        150        100        125        125        110        150        100        125        125        0        0        0        0        0        0        110        0        0        110        100
ab        150        100        125        125        110        150        100        125        125        50        50        50        0        0        0        110        0        50        110        100
as        150        100        125        125        110        150        100        125        125        100        50        50        0        0        0        110        0        50        110        100
ay        150        100        125        125        100        150        100        125        125        100        100        100        50        50        50        100        50        100        100        100
ba        150        100        125        125        100        150        100        125        125        25        25        25        25        0        25        100        25        25        100        100
ca        150        50        125        125        110        150        50        125        125        50        50        50        0        0        0        110        0        50        110        100
cx        150        100        125        125        110        150        100        125        125        100        100        100        25        0        25        110        25        100        110        100
ib        150        100        125        125        110        150        50        125        125        50        50        50        0        0        0        110        0        50        110        100
jj        150        100        125        125        110        150        100        125        125        50        50        50        0        0        0        110        0        50        110        100
jl        150        70        125        125        70        150        70        125        125        50        50        50        0        0        0        100        0        0        100        100
la        150        100        125        125        110        150        100        125        125        100        100        100        0        0        0        110        0        100        110        100
mh        150        100        125        125        110        150        50        125        125        50        0        50        0        0        0        110        0        50        110        100
mu        150        70        125        125        110        150        70        125        125        70        70        70        0        0        0        110        0        70        110        100
qf        150        50        125        125        110        150        50        125        125        50        50        50        0        0        0        110        0        50        110        100
qr        150        0        125        125        110        150        50        125        125        50        50        50        25        0        25        110        25        0        110        0
s7        150        100        125        125        110        150        100        125        125        0        0        0        0        0        0        110        0        0        110        100
ul        150        100        125        125        110        150        100        125        125        50        50        50        0        0        0        110        0        50        110        100

wheretocredit.com/cx

On a different note, I think it'd be a good idea to have a clickable "sort" button (like a mini-arrow as in wikipedia tables) in the headline of each column instead of the dropdown menu.

MilosWorldwide Dec 1, 2015 6:16 am

Very helpful tool! Thanks!

IAkH Dec 4, 2015 5:24 pm


Originally Posted by MilosWorldwide (Post 25795122)
Very helpful tool! Thanks!


Originally Posted by trijet (Post 25768868)
Hi and thanks for this great tool!

Glad to hear it!


Originally Posted by trijet (Post 25768868)
I thought that a table output like in the example would be neat:
Especially with a tool like MS Excel's "Conditional Format" (it might or might not be doable), wheretocredit would become much more useful, when deciding on a new FFP.

I like the idea, but it's not something we have plans to make at this time. PM me and I can try to get you the info you're looking for in a CSV.


Originally Posted by trijet (Post 25768868)
On a different note, I think it'd be a good idea to have a clickable "sort" button (like a mini-arrow as in wikipedia tables) in the headline of each column instead of the dropdown menu.

This makes sense :) I've been meaning to update the design, so look for it in the near future

st1575 Jan 7, 2016 7:18 am

Is AS being purposely excluded from the API when querying for DL and AA flights? For example, this page returns 20 results:

http://www.wheretocredit.com/delta-air-lines/a

while an equivalent API call only returns 19 (AS is missing).

allanyong Jan 8, 2016 11:33 pm

Awesome work IAkH, I wish I have discovered it earlier. We have been working on something too and there are some lapse. We are developing a mobile tool for this purpose right now, and hopefully we will be able to release it soon:p

We will definitely take an advantage of the api and it will save us some hassles with the ST data...

Mwenenzi Jan 9, 2016 1:55 am

Some pages do not include the own airline's ffp.
For example QF does not include the QF ffp http://www.wheretocredit.com/qantas-airways
But AA does include the AA ffp http://www.wheretocredit.com/american-airlines

belfordrocks Jan 9, 2016 7:54 pm

I think this is because QF awards miles on factors other than a pure correlation to distance (e.g. pre-determined flat rates depending on route)

IAkH Jan 11, 2016 5:54 am


Originally Posted by st1575 (Post 25977534)
Is AS being purposely excluded from the API when querying for DL and AA flights? For example, this page returns 20 results:

http://www.wheretocredit.com/delta-air-lines/a

while an equivalent API call only returns 19 (AS is missing).

Great catch. Thanks ^ Should be fixed now

IAkH Jan 11, 2016 5:55 am


Originally Posted by allanyong (Post 25988475)
Awesome work IAkH, I wish I have discovered it earlier. We have been working on something too and there are some lapse. We are developing a mobile tool for this purpose right now, and hopefully we will be able to release it soon:p

We will definitely take an advantage of the api and it will save us some hassles with the ST data...

Glad to hear it. Let me know if there's anything you need added/changed from the API

IAkH Jan 11, 2016 5:58 am


Originally Posted by Mwenenzi (Post 25988751)
Some pages do not include the own airline's ffp.
For example QF does not include the QF ffp http://www.wheretocredit.com/qantas-airways
But AA does include the AA ffp http://www.wheretocredit.com/american-airlines


Originally Posted by belfordrocks (Post 25992270)
I think this is because QF awards miles on factors other than a pure correlation to distance (e.g. pre-determined flat rates depending on route)

Yep, Belfordrocks is correct. QF is missing (including most airlines that can earn on QF as well) because they earn fixed amounts per region which doesn't translate well into % of miles flown. I'm in the process of adding these back in as some sort of indicator so that you guys can at least get a link to the calculator/mileage chart. Give me a few days, and I'll update everybody here when they're up. Feel free to let me know if you notice any others that are missing :)

IAkH Jan 23, 2016 1:55 am


Originally Posted by trijet (Post 25768868)
On a different note, I think it'd be a good idea to have a clickable "sort" button (like a mini-arrow as in wikipedia tables) in the headline of each column instead of the dropdown menu.

Minor update today and moved the sorting into the new column headers :) Thanks for the feedback

kaarlows Feb 4, 2016 1:05 pm

Air Canada & GOL
 
Hi there,

A new mileage partnership has been announced, between Air Canada and the Brazilian airline GOL.

You can read the news about this partnership from Aeroplan's website, with the accrual table here.

And from GOL's Smiles program, you can check their accrual table here.

Kudos for the nice work so far!

IAkH Feb 8, 2016 5:09 pm


Originally Posted by kaarlows (Post 26133650)
Hi there,

A new mileage partnership has been announced, between Air Canada and the Brazilian airline GOL.

You can read the news about this partnership from Aeroplan's website, with the accrual table here.

And from GOL's Smiles program, you can check their accrual table here.

Kudos for the nice work so far!

Sorry I missed your message, and thanks again for the heads up! I believe this one was added the same day :)

IAkH Mar 7, 2016 8:47 am

Hacked together a quick calculator this weekend:

http://www.wheretocredit.com/calculator

Here's a sample url if you find editing urls easier (like I do ;))
http://www.wheretocredit.com/calcula...K/ORD-CDG-UA-K

Enjoy :)

jerryhung Mar 7, 2016 10:49 am

Nice calculator

Thanks for the new feature, as well as the Chinese language (I saw the heads up from Trip+, the one helping with the translation)

pencereamelesi Mar 7, 2016 2:18 pm

Thanks for the great feature.

(By the way, O6's earning table is geographical based.)

IAkH Mar 8, 2016 2:41 am

Glad you guys like it, and thanks for your support :D


Originally Posted by pencereamelesi (Post 26298544)
(By the way, O6's earning table is geographical based.)

We tried adding O6 before but couldn't find their chart for themselves. The best we got was this: http://www.avianca.com.br/en/amigo/a...avianca_brasil which doesn't translate well for either fare classes or even regions. I'd love to add them if you had a better chart available!

IAkH Mar 12, 2016 12:12 pm

Translations!
 
Hi all, some of you may have already noticed that we added translations recently. We want to thank all our friends for helping us do these translations:


Spanish, Italian and maybe Russian are also on the way!

If there are any other languages anybody can/wants to help translate, shoot me a pm. We can't offer anything but our gratitude and credit for providing the translation ;)

maxim730 Mar 13, 2016 7:01 am

This is great - thanks so much for taking the time to provide the site to us!

Flyinghobby Mar 17, 2016 6:48 pm

Thanks!!

vn10 Mar 31, 2016 6:01 am

cool site! just to add on some info:

LAN Peru (LIM-LPB & CUZ-AQP)
- Credit to CX Asia Miles 100% for economy (https://www.asiamiles.com/am/en/earn/aircalculator)
- Seems to be able to credit to Iberia too but cannot confirm
- Seems NOT to be able to credit to BAEC...?

AspiringWorldTraveler Apr 27, 2016 2:20 am

Awesome tool, had built a spreadsheet for the legacy US carriers, so this is much easier as don't have to open excel!

Any way to add-in elite status and miles paid/flown so the output shows how many RDM one will actually earn? (I have the formulas ready to go...)

nacho Apr 27, 2016 2:57 am

Great site, thanks!

Earning on RJ is missing.

IAkH Apr 27, 2016 8:59 am


Originally Posted by vn10 (Post 26414062)
cool site! just to add on some info:

LAN Peru (LIM-LPB & CUZ-AQP)
- Credit to CX Asia Miles 100% for economy (https://www.asiamiles.com/am/en/earn/aircalculator)
- Seems to be able to credit to Iberia too but cannot confirm
- Seems NOT to be able to credit to BAEC...?

Thanks! LAN reporting by partners is complicated... Nobody does it the same, and we don't make any assumptions and only display what the airline or ffp's own site displays. asiamiles.com says only LA marketed flights are eligible so that's why we're missing LAN Peru et al for CX.


Originally Posted by AspiringWorldTraveler (Post 26541183)
Awesome tool, had built a spreadsheet for the legacy US carriers, so this is much easier as don't have to open excel!

Any way to add-in elite status and miles paid/flown so the output shows how many RDM one will actually earn? (I have the formulas ready to go...)

Glad to hear it :) I'd be happy to take a look at what you've got. We're in the process of adding EQM/EQPs for each program, but as you can imagine, they're even more complicated than RDM. Unfortunately elite bonuses will probably not be until after that. I will keep you and this thread updated when it happens


Originally Posted by nacho (Post 26541272)
Great site, thanks!

Earning on RJ is missing.

Thanks! We could only find RJ's mileage chart for themselves. They do not seem to publish their earning rates for their partners. Please let me know if you know where to find it, and I'd be more than happy to add it

fuyao Jun 24, 2016 5:16 am

Could you plz add Germanwings (4U)?

UA:
https://www.united.com/cms/en-US/mar...spx?itemid=625

LH m&m:
https://www.eurowings.com/en/your-re...-works-mm.html

Also any chance to disable the automatic translation? I prefer to use the English version but it always changes to my native language whenever I use it

IAkH Jun 24, 2016 2:33 pm


Originally Posted by fuyao (Post 26823977)

We were informed 4U flights will be marketed under Eurowings starting 2016. Are there still any 4U operated flights?

Originally Posted by fuyao (Post 26823977)
Also any chance to disable the automatic translation? I prefer to use the English version but it always changes to my native language whenever I use it

Yes, we can add this to the TODO list. Thank you for your feedback


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