HSBC [considering] Ditching Blackberry for iPhone
Aug 18, 2008, 6:18 am
#16
Original Poster
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Detroit; Formerly Dubai
Posts: 3,652
If you travel regularly, I believe that you really want a device that can also access your corporate mail over an encrypted tunnel via public wifi as well. As good as coverage has gotten, it is an important backup. Two years ago when I visited Lebanon, ATT didn't have a data roaming agreement there. Same with Oman. A week and a half ago, my phone (functionally) didn't work in Gallina, Illinois. Being able to jump onto wifi saved my six.
Aug 18, 2008, 7:07 am
#17
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: PSM
Posts: 69,232
If you travel regularly, I believe that you really want a device that can also access your corporate mail over an encrypted tunnel via public wifi as well. As good as coverage has gotten, it is an important backup. Two years ago when I visited Lebanon, ATT didn't have a data roaming agreement there. Same with Oman. A week and a half ago, my phone (functionally) didn't work in Gallina, Illinois. Being able to jump onto wifi saved my six.
Aug 18, 2008, 9:22 am
#18
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: The People's Republik of MSN
Programs: After years of status, back to Peon levels. Anti-Apostheid Platinum, PWP CentCom
Posts: 4,767
Good would be an interesting play in the iPhone space. They have a great history of broad device support, so that works in their favor. And they can encrypt/manage corporate groupware content down to the devices plus application installation and some other neat things. But the last version I saw still didn't have the full management capabilities and controls over the device like RIM does. Moreover, I cannot imagine Apple allowing the installation of a package onto the phone that imposes such controls. That's just not their style.
* WM device (either blackjack II or Treo750) using Good.
* iPhone with ActiveSync
Employees who don't qualify for a company-paid phone are (as of last month) now allowed to get e-mail via ActiveSync if they want. Officially, the support for this is for iPhone users, but it works just fine on any device that supports ActiveSync (which IIRC in current incarnation does at least support remote wiping a device).
BB was supported up to about 3 years ago, then everyone was migrated to Good. So, we now have a hybrid Good/ActiveSync setup.
Right now, I have a Treo750, and I'm ready to chuck it for an iPhone. The Treo's worst failing? It sucks as a phone. When people call me, it rings 3 times on there end before my phone even starts vibrating, if it does at all. Battery life sucks - I don't even get a full day on standby in areas where it bounces between 2.5 and 3G when my BlackJack 1 (personal phone) gets 2+ days standby.
Aug 18, 2008, 4:39 pm
#19
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: BNE, Australia...not too far from the nearest Qantas Pub err Club
Posts: 3,636
Wirelessly posted (Nokia E61 Wi-Fi 3G GPRS: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Symbian OS; Nokia E61/0633.09.04; 9730) Opera 8.65 [en] UP.Link/6.5.1.3.0)
FWIW, my employer now offers two options on phones that are fully company-paid:
* WM device (either blackjack II or Treo750) using Good.
* iPhone with ActiveSync
Employees who don't qualify for a company-paid phone are (as of last month) now allowed to get e-mail via ActiveSync if they want. Officially, the support for this is for iPhone users, but it works just fine on any device that supports ActiveSync (which IIRC in current incarnation does at least support remote wiping a device).
BB was supported up to about 3 years ago, then everyone was migrated to Good. So, we now have a hybrid Good/ActiveSync setup.
Right now, I have a Treo750, and I'm ready to chuck it for an iPhone. The Treo's worst failing? It sucks as a phone. When people call me, it rings 3 times on there end before my phone even starts vibrating, if it does at all. Battery life sucks - I don't even get a full day on standby in areas where it bounces between 2.5 and 3G when my BlackJack 1 (personal phone) gets 2+ days standby.
If you hate the Treo, and want a device with 'proper' RF and battery life and stability, watch the Good space for E71 support. As soon as it's ready that's my next device. Not the iPhone - no keyboard = no go.
And yes our business operates same lines - Good and ActiveSync.
Originally Posted by bdjohns1
Good would be an interesting play in the iPhone space. They have a great history of broad device support, so that works in their favor. And they can encrypt/manage corporate groupware content down to the devices plus application installation and some other neat things. But the last version I saw still didn't have the full management capabilities and controls over the device like RIM does. Moreover, I cannot imagine Apple allowing the installation of a package onto the phone that imposes such controls. That's just not their style.
* WM device (either blackjack II or Treo750) using Good.
* iPhone with ActiveSync
Employees who don't qualify for a company-paid phone are (as of last month) now allowed to get e-mail via ActiveSync if they want. Officially, the support for this is for iPhone users, but it works just fine on any device that supports ActiveSync (which IIRC in current incarnation does at least support remote wiping a device).
BB was supported up to about 3 years ago, then everyone was migrated to Good. So, we now have a hybrid Good/ActiveSync setup.
Right now, I have a Treo750, and I'm ready to chuck it for an iPhone. The Treo's worst failing? It sucks as a phone. When people call me, it rings 3 times on there end before my phone even starts vibrating, if it does at all. Battery life sucks - I don't even get a full day on standby in areas where it bounces between 2.5 and 3G when my BlackJack 1 (personal phone) gets 2+ days standby.
And yes our business operates same lines - Good and ActiveSync.
Aug 18, 2008, 6:28 pm
#20
Original Poster
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Detroit; Formerly Dubai
Posts: 3,652
I wasn't plugging the iPhone over the BBerry, I was suggesting that whatever solution you opt for, it is worth spending the extra money for wifi if the basic model doesn't have it.
Aug 18, 2008, 6:32 pm
#21
Original Poster
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Detroit; Formerly Dubai
Posts: 3,652
Wirelessly posted (Nokia E61 Wi-Fi 3G GPRS: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Symbian OS; Nokia E61/0633.09.04; 9730) Opera 8.65 [en] UP.Link/6.5.1.3.0)
If you hate the Treo, and want a device with 'proper' RF and battery life and stability, watch the Good space for E71 support. As soon as it's ready that's my next device. Not the iPhone - no keyboard = no go.
And yes our business operates same lines - Good and ActiveSync.
If you hate the Treo, and want a device with 'proper' RF and battery life and stability, watch the Good space for E71 support. As soon as it's ready that's my next device. Not the iPhone - no keyboard = no go.
And yes our business operates same lines - Good and ActiveSync.
Aug 18, 2008, 6:52 pm
#22
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: PSM
Posts: 69,232
I used to love GoodLink. I still love their broad device support, but the fact that they seem to mostly be used on WM devices and the battery life on those sucks is not a particularly strong vote of confidence for their software. Plus, since the buyout by Motorola their product roadmap has been somewhat unclear, which doesn't help much.