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Old Mar 1, 2008 | 11:07 pm
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What exactly do you get to manage with a managed switch?
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Old Mar 2, 2008 | 1:35 am
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Originally Posted by ByeByeDelta
What exactly do you get to manage with a managed switch?
Switch partitioning, vlans, QOS, etc.

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Old Mar 2, 2008 | 11:22 am
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Originally Posted by LIH Prem
Switch partitioning, vlans, QOS, etc.
Yeah, probably stuff you don't need to worry about at home (or even in a small business) unless you're a real geek about it.

Not sure you'll run across this in 24-port switches, but at least in 48-port models a particularly confusing term is "stackable". This has nothing to do with physically stacking up the boxes and everything to do with connecting switches together to make them manage as one large switch.

If you need that in your house you must be Bill Gates.
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Old Mar 2, 2008 | 11:57 am
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Originally Posted by cordelli
Somebody has to ask.

Why would one need 24 gigabit ports wired for home?
To build a Oracle RAC environment at home of course

http://www.oracle.com/technology/pub...gr2_iscsi.html
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Old Mar 2, 2008 | 12:23 pm
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Originally Posted by ClueByFour
Absent the backups, I am still searching for a home (not home office, but home) application that requires gigabit ethernet.
Video and photo editing. I keep my media on a NAS.

Right now, my network is segmented between a few wireless segments. One of the segments, which contains my editing computer, NAS and laptop, is gigabit. I use Netgear switches and find them almost reliable. They are, however, cheap.
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Old Mar 2, 2008 | 4:51 pm
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Originally Posted by CrazyOne
Not sure you'll run across this in 24-port switches

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They are out there. They are expensive. If you really want one, I would look for a used one. There's a huge delta in price between unmanaged and managed switches plus the price increase you pay for a commercial grade switch vs one made for the home market.

But I agree with you. Most home users don't need managed switches. I don't.

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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 4:08 am
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Originally Posted by ScottC
Cisco or HP hardware for at home is really overkill ...
Hmm, looks around at the Cisco switch and router in the rack behind my desk ...

Then looks at the CCIE plaque on the wall, nods and smiles. Overkill maybe, but at least it works well .
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 6:51 am
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Originally Posted by NM
Hmm, looks around at the Cisco switch and router in the rack behind my desk ...

Then looks at the CCIE plaque on the wall, nods and smiles. Overkill maybe, but at least it works well .
Geek alert
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 7:18 am
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Stupid question from a semi-geek: what is the advantage to running all of this wiring through the house over using a wireless router?
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 8:14 am
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Originally Posted by SRQ Guy
Stupid question from a semi-geek: what is the advantage to running all of this wiring through the house over using a wireless router?
Speed. 802.11g maxes out at 54 megabits/second, 802.11n at 108 (and these are maximum speeds, actual speed will be less). 100BaseT ethernet is 100 megabits per second, and 1000BaseT (gigabit, which is what has been discussed here) is 1000 megabits per second. There are also security issues -- anything broadcast is potentially less secure than a hard-wired system.
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 8:23 am
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Originally Posted by ClueByFour
Absent the backups, I am still searching for a home (not home office, but home) application that requires gigabit ethernet.
Me think the same.. I'm still running my notebooks on the wireless
and there is next to nil need for GB (or 100mbps) switch as far as I'm
concerned.

Originally Posted by ScottC
Yeah, backups are the big resource hog here. But I also copy massive amounts of data (mainly ISO rips) between some machines and the extra speed really helps.
ISO would do it.. but my backups generally run off hours using rsync.
No big deal.. they finish just fine on a wireless link (under 11mbps) or 100mbps
wired.


I'd assume there is no real need for a managed switch for a home
environment, and I can understand the need for a 24 ports requirement,
but you should re-evaluate the need for GB.

Most of the cheap GB switches do not have fast throughput to support
simultaneous fast connections (Most Ciscos do - but at a premium cost)

PS: For the low end, I generally use Netgear switches. They've served me well.

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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 8:53 am
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Originally Posted by PTravel
Speed. 802.11g maxes out at 54 megabits/second, 802.11n at 108 (and these are maximum speeds, actual speed will be less). 100BaseT ethernet is 100 megabits per second, and 1000BaseT (gigabit, which is what has been discussed here) is 1000 megabits per second. There are also security issues -- anything broadcast is potentially less secure than a hard-wired system.
That all makes sense. I'm trying to decide whether to talk to my new home builder about running network cable throughout the new house.
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 8:55 am
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Yeah, I was just thinking about that--most of the cheap stuff won't come close to running a gig on more than a port or three at a time.
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 8:58 am
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Originally Posted by SRQ Guy
That all makes sense. I'm trying to decide whether to talk to my new home builder about running network cable throughout the new house.
Its always a good idea. I'd suggest picking a central location where
you can have all the cables terminated in a patch panel.

Go for it! ^
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 11:11 am
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If I was building a new home or doing serious reconstruction, I would certainly have the cables run, it is probably fairly trivial at the time of construction (ca 500$) to do sensible runs. It will be a simple thing in a few years to do HDV over CAT6 no problem.
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