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Old Jan 26, 2007, 6:09 am
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is there any way slingbox could be interrupted by country where slung to?

what i mean is, if i am watching sb in X country ("slingastan"), can it somehow be interrupted/tampered with by the "slingastan"'s government /FCC-like agency? is there anything illegal in watching it?
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Old Jan 26, 2007, 6:21 am
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Well, if the Chinese government can censor google and other services, I would assume the same could happen to sb.
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Old Jan 26, 2007, 6:31 am
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Originally Posted by haniboo
what i mean is, if i am watching sb in X country ("slingastan"), can it somehow be interrupted/tampered with by the "slingastan"'s government /FCC-like agency? is there anything illegal in watching it?
They could probably block the port that is used ... but the smart response from slingbox users would be to just reconfigure (software or firmware upgrades) to use a port that can't be blocked (becaused its used by something else like standard websites)

So my guess is that they could interupt it, but probably not shut it down permanently. ... I'm far from being a slingbox expert though ...
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Old Jan 27, 2007, 3:50 am
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My Slingbox connection was blocked at the Sheraton Taipei in December. Haven't had the problem anywhere else.
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Old Jan 27, 2007, 4:16 am
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Originally Posted by haniboo
is there anything illegal in watching it?
... could be.
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Old Jan 27, 2007, 7:16 am
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Some hotels might block the ports. I know some internet cafes I've been to blocked Skype before... Depends on the hotel and country, anything is possible.
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Old Jan 27, 2007, 9:34 am
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how would the country/hotel/cafe know what is being seen on the screen to know to shut it down?
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Old Jan 27, 2007, 10:03 am
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how would the country/hotel/cafe know what is being seen on the screen to know to shut it down?
They wouldnt have to. They would simply block the port that slingbox uses. Browsing the internet, checking email, etc. would still work fine, but the slingbox wouldnt work.
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Old Jan 27, 2007, 10:24 am
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They wouldnt have to. They would simply block the port that slingbox uses. Browsing the internet, checking email, etc. would still work fine, but the slingbox wouldnt work.
so you mean that country would block slingbox totally to all in the country? then how would one move around it, as other posters mentioned could be done?
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Old Jan 27, 2007, 4:16 pm
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then how would one move around it, as other posters mentioned could be done?
Working via a VPN or other remote set-ups.
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Old Jan 27, 2007, 4:34 pm
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I'm not a data-networking specialist, but I do play one on TV

Originally Posted by jason8612
Some hotels might block the ports. I know some internet cafes I've been to blocked Skype before... Depends on the hotel and country, anything is possible.
Port blocking/filtering is actually quite primitive. The most effective way to block a Slingbox - or any other device/service is to use a traffic shaping device.

Before I get too technical, trust me when I say that this is done every day, to ALL traffic on the web. If you are served via Cable Modem from a major US MSO, you are living in this world now.

Boiled down: all traffic is sniffed and the packet header identifies the traffic type. Using an Ellacoya box or a Packeteer system, a network operator can assign traffic priorities to different packet types - or block them entirely. For those of us in corporate offices who cannot listen so streaming music or launch P2P app's, this is a known evil of the modern world.

One of the deepest secrets in the Data world is this very idea. The average American would scream and fuss if they thought that their packets are being sniffed, but rest assured that they are. The very nature of the system architecture dictates this. If your cable operator uses PacketCable standards, it gets even more intense.

Here's a fun thought for you to chew on:
You have Vonage at home, but your service provider offers VoIP. How do they get you to switch to their services ? Simple - they use packet examination and 802.1p or ToS overrides to assign the Vonage packets to a lower priority.

Legal ? Hmmmmm....

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Old Jan 27, 2007, 8:57 pm
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you are right, never ever thought of it. thanks for, uhh, the enlightenment.

my SB is trying to open in remote location now, and can't stream. the Kbps are at about 190. does this measurement reflect what is going on at the remote end or the sling base end? besides the idea of being "sniffed" (uck) and blocked, what else could cause this low Kbps?

anyone with suggestions, how-tos, on checking what this is, or reconfiguring ports, etc. please PM. (now that i am all paranoid). thanks.

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Old Jan 28, 2007, 3:34 am
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Originally Posted by sqwert
Before I get too technical, trust me when I say that this is done every day, to ALL traffic on the web. If you are served via Cable Modem from a major US MSO, you are living in this world now.
Well no, it isn't ALL traffic. Maybe the US cable guys have this setup on some (I doubt all) of their outbound links, but most of the rest of the world does not. And it isn't as easy as just turning on a switch. Discerning different traffic types isn't automatic and people can be smart about hiding their applications.
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