Encrypting data on notebook
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Encrypting data on notebook
I am considering encrypting specific files / folders on my notebook, but don't want to get myself in a jam I cannot get out of. For those of you that have (or decided not to), what are the things to be careful of if there are any at all? If you've opted not to encrypt, why not?
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Originally Posted by dingo
I am considering encrypting specific files / folders on my notebook, but don't want to get myself in a jam I cannot get out of. For those of you that have (or decided not to), what are the things to be careful of if there are any at all? If you've opted not to encrypt, why not?
Works for iPods also...
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I highly recommend TrueCrypt . It can create an encrypted partition as a file or take over the whole disk such as a USB flash drive. It is straightfoward to use. Mount the encrypted partition on drive letter and enter your password. Any files saved to that drive is encrypted. Unmount the partition when done.
An alternative is the encrypted file system built-in Windows XP or 2000. Encrypting a file or directory is as easy as right click on the file and check "Encrypt this file" in the detail attribute window. The user needs to be diligent on backing up of his keys. If the users' profile got corrupted and keys were not backed up, the files are nearly impossible to recover. I have seen this happen...
An alternative is the encrypted file system built-in Windows XP or 2000. Encrypting a file or directory is as easy as right click on the file and check "Encrypt this file" in the detail attribute window. The user needs to be diligent on backing up of his keys. If the users' profile got corrupted and keys were not backed up, the files are nearly impossible to recover. I have seen this happen...
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Originally Posted by dingo
I am considering encrypting specific files / folders on my notebook, but don't want to get myself in a jam I cannot get out of. For those of you that have (or decided not to), what are the things to be careful of if there are any at all? If you've opted not to encrypt, why not?
If none of the above is true, the best thing, and also easiest, would be to set up a BIOS password. Not easily breakable, unless the perpetrator, after digging up the diagrams from some underground online forum, was able to put together a little PCB with various diodes and cathodes mostly obtainable through your local Radio Shack.
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If you have any data valuable enough to require encryption (as opposed to using the Windows XP user password at startup), then you should be hiring a data security expert as a consultant, rather than asking for advice from random amateurs like me.
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I'd second Msb0b's recommendation of using Truecrypt. When travelling I carry a list of personal contacts, credit card info & just stuff I wouldn't like to be made public knowledge if the laptop were stolen. I like the fact that after you enter your strong password once Truecrypt becomes unobtrusive and you just use your encrypted drive as if it were a native hard disk. The BIOS password is nice in the fact that it does make it more difficult to boot your computer, but it does nothing to protect the data...if you remove the hard drive and put it in an external USB enclosure (or another computer) everthing is visible.
Just some random amateur musings...YMMV
Just some random amateur musings...YMMV
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I just have a lot of data, personal and work, on the machine that I'd not want to be accessed should my pc get lost or stolen.
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I use the commercial version of PGP called PGP Desktop Professional. Lots of features, but most important (to me) is whole disk encryption. If you get your hands on my laptop's disk drive, good luck decrypting any of it.
Of course, if you forget your password, you are well and truly screwed.
Of course, if you forget your password, you are well and truly screwed.
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Originally Posted by dingo
I just have a lot of data, personal and work, on the machine that I'd not want to be accessed should my pc get lost or stolen.
But if in fact your laptop is stolen, you will at least have the sadisfaction that the user won't even be able to go past the BIOS password screen. Essentially, that computer is one huge paperweight.
I say put a system BIOS password and a hard drive BIOS password. Make them different. The hard drive retains the password even if it is moved to another computer, and even if the actual PCB of it is changed. In this manner the hard drive is virtually not accessible.
I work in the IT department of a major consulting firm and security is huge for us. The question was raised whether HDD passwords could be broken. I tried tirelessly, whatever I knew, whatever I could think of and whatever I found on the net... no love. The password was not broken.
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And remember that encrypting single files might not be enough. Depending on how the software is designed, and the persistance of the thief, temp files may be available that are unencrypted. That is why whole disk encryption is stronger.
Edit: remember, even more important than encryption is physical security-if the attacker can't get the laptop, no amount of hacking/cracking technology will help them (assuming of course that you have firewall, antivirus, etc.)
Edit: remember, even more important than encryption is physical security-if the attacker can't get the laptop, no amount of hacking/cracking technology will help them (assuming of course that you have firewall, antivirus, etc.)
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Originally Posted by DEVIS
If none of the above is true, the best thing, and also easiest, would be to set up a BIOS password. Not easily breakable, unless the perpetrator, after digging up the diagrams from some underground online forum, was able to put together a little PCB with various diodes and cathodes mostly obtainable through your local Radio Shack.
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If you are going to go the encryption route, remember that you have to keep your key and the files separate for this to be effective. So if you're going to leave your laptop in the hotel room, for example, then you've got to take the key with you, or the encryption is worthless.
Also remember to choose a good passphrase, the longer the better, the more random (don't just choose words out of the dictionary) the better.
Also remember to choose a good passphrase, the longer the better, the more random (don't just choose words out of the dictionary) the better.
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Originally Posted by gilkman
BIOS passwords can be defeated by removing the HD and attaching it to a different PC. I also heartily recommend using a USB/thumb drive with Truecrypt. I use free suite of USB apps available here that includes Truecrypt and many other freeware apps.
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