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Old Dec 29, 2004 | 9:32 pm
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Question What 802.11 detector do you use?

I got the Kensington WiFi Finder Plus. It seems to work great although I haven't been able to try it at any airport yet.

Do any of you use a detector? Which one?
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Old Dec 29, 2004 | 9:42 pm
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With Windows XP, you don't need a detector -- there's one built in. Simply go to network connections (in control panel) and right click on your wireless icon. Then click on the tab that says "view available wireless networks".
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Old Dec 29, 2004 | 11:27 pm
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Originally Posted by RobUAIntl
With Windows XP, you don't need a detector -- there's one built in...
Ditto for Macintosh, except it's even simpler. Look at the Wi-Fi icon in the menu bar. If there's a network around, it will show one to four black (as opposed to light grey) arcs. The number of black arcs indicates signal strength.

None of these guarantee that you'll be able to use the network, of course. They just tell you it's there.
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Old Dec 29, 2004 | 11:44 pm
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Originally Posted by RobUAIntl
With Windows XP, you don't need a detector -- there's one built in. Simply go to network connections (in control panel) and right click on your wireless icon. Then click on the tab that says "view available wireless networks".
That's not really the point of a detector. It's useful so that you can check for wifi connectivity without booting up.
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Old Dec 29, 2004 | 11:57 pm
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Cool DUH! Laptops make poor network detectors.

Originally Posted by RobUAIntl
With Windows XP, you don't need a detector -- there's one built in. Simply go to network connections (in control panel) and right click on your wireless icon. Then click on the tab that says "view available wireless networks".
Originally Posted by Efrem
Ditto for Macintosh, except it's even simpler. Look at the Wi-Fi icon in the menu bar. If there's a network around, it will show one to four black (as opposed to light grey) arcs. The number of black arcs indicates signal strength.


Now please explain why I would want to boot up my laptop just to see if a wireless network exists. Suppose the network doesn't exist where I'm sitting. This is the case in many airports. Do I want to walk around with my laptop powered on looking for the presence of a network?

I wanted a simple device that would tell me if 802.11 is present without having to boot up.
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Old Dec 30, 2004 | 2:01 am
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pdxer,

Thanks for that review.
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Old Dec 30, 2004 | 3:06 am
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Originally Posted by ByrdluvsAWACO


Now please explain why I would want to boot up my laptop just to see if a wireless network exists. Suppose the network doesn't exist where I'm sitting. This is the case in many airports. Do I want to walk around with my laptop powered on looking for the presence of a network?

I wanted a simple device that would tell me if 802.11 is present without having to boot up.
Let me see if I understand this. You want to buy a second piece of equipment, one which you will need to carry around in addition to your laptop, and one which not only requires batteries, but probably non-rechargeable batteries. And you want to do this only so that you don't have to boot up your laptop?

To each his own, I suppose.
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What's this about booting up? Doesn't every laptop made for years go into Sleep mode when you close the lid, then wake up in about a tenth of a second when you open it?
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Old Dec 30, 2004 | 7:34 am
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Originally Posted by mikebe
Let me see if I understand this. You want to buy a second piece of equipment, one which you will need to carry around in addition to your laptop, and one which not only requires batteries, but probably non-rechargeable batteries. And you want to do this only so that you don't have to boot up your laptop?

To each his own, I suppose.
So, when walking around the airport with all your bags, you think it's effective to open the laptop bag, and carry a $2500 laptop around in your arms watching the wireless signal while dragging the bags around looking for a signal and dodging fellow passengers?

To each his own, I suppose.
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Old Dec 30, 2004 | 8:29 am
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What's this about booting up? Doesn't every laptop made for years go into Sleep mode when you close the lid, then wake up in about a tenth of a second when you open it?
Yes, it's called Hibernate and it does exactly that (except it takes 2 or 3 seconds.) Besides, some of us have work to do on our laptops even if we can't find a WiFi connection!
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Old Dec 30, 2004 | 8:52 am
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Originally Posted by pdxer
Interesting.

Only one of them tells you if the channel is encrypted or not, and none of them can tell you if the connection is open or if you have to log in to use it. So there's still going to be some booting up your computer trial-and-error.
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Old Dec 30, 2004 | 10:06 am
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Originally Posted by ScottC
So, when walking around the airport with all your bags, you think it's effective to open the laptop bag, and carry a $2500 laptop around in your arms watching the wireless signal while dragging the bags around looking for a signal and dodging fellow passengers?

To each his own, I suppose.
Perhaps I misunderstood. I thought the OP asked becaused he wanted to _use_ his laptop. If all he wants is just find a signal, then you are quite correct. However, if he plans on actually using the laptop, then, yes, he will have to open the laptop bag, etc.

No sense in ordering the ice cream if all you want are the sprinkles, eh?
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Old Dec 30, 2004 | 12:36 pm
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We're talking about whether there's any signal at all. If there's no signal it makes no sense totry your comouter.

Originally Posted by mikebe
No sense in ordering the ice cream if all you want are the sprinkles, eh?
No sense in getting your wallet out if there's no ice cream store nearby.
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Old Dec 30, 2004 | 6:42 pm
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Cool OMG! If must be rocket science for some of you.

Wow. It seems as though only ScottC and Xyzzy can only understand the goal of not wanting to drag out my laptop just to see if a wireless network exists.

You want to buy a second piece of equipment, one which you will need to carry around in addition to your laptop,
Equipment? You make it sound as if we're talking about some heavy oscilloscope. The damned thing only weighs an ounce.

Originally Posted by Efrem
What's this about booting up? Doesn't every laptop made for years go into Sleep mode when you close the lid, then wake up in about a tenth of a second when you open it?
Originally Posted by BLI-Flyer
Yes, it's called Hibernate and it does exactly that (except it takes 2 or 3 seconds.)
That's just stupid. That still doesn't solve the fact that I have to either walk around with my laptop open or keep opening and closing it while searching for a connection.

By the time I drag out the notebook, I can already know whether or not there was a Wifi presence. Hibernation still adds more time to the process.

Originally Posted by BLI-Flyer
Besides, some of us have work to do on our laptops even if we can't find a WiFi connection!


And some of us need a connection of some type to do our job. Spare me the attittude.
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