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Old Feb 13, 2004, 7:38 pm
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Any ideas for airplane laptop power supply?

Hello - Im flying AA-biz (777) with a Dell Inspiron 5100 and I cant find an auto-adapter that works with this model -- even if I did, the ones for the other models are over $100 -- is that right?

Does anyone know of any other type of converter that could work for a laptop? Ive never traveled transoceanic(LAX-LHR) before with this laptop, so I know this will run out of power. The AA website says they have auto-adapter type plugs -- is this correct?

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Old Feb 13, 2004, 7:55 pm
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Search reveals:

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http://www.flyertalk.com/travel/fttr...ML/000458.html
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Old Feb 13, 2004, 8:11 pm
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Wow. Thanks -- never thought of searching for Inspiron -- just didnt think there were other posts about it - but I stand corrected!
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Old Feb 14, 2004, 9:49 am
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You can also use the APC inverter. Its a little bigger and heavier than the Targus models, but it gives you a standard 110 oulet to use with your computer and any other device you desire (such as cell phone or Ipod).
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Old Feb 14, 2004, 9:53 am
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Hey there mikel .. thanks for the reply. Is this the adapter:

http://www.apcc.com/resource/include...CountryCode=US

It seems with that, I can plug anything into it -- but, Im not sure what the powerport on AA looks like (is it just standard auto)? I read the other posts mentioned above, but the only answer Im finding is that it cant be done. Someone on the British Airways board has a similar discussion going and they recommended pulling out the battery (to reduce the draw), but things of power consumption, etc confuse me so I may not be understanding all of this correctly.
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Old Feb 14, 2004, 10:42 am
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AA does indeed use cigarette-lighter style power recepticles on board their planes, unlike most other airlines (UA, CO, LX for example) that use the multi-pinned Empower-style recepticles.


Keep in mind that the on-board power systems only supply 70 watts of power - I don't know if that would be a factor in using the APCC unit.
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Old Feb 14, 2004, 11:27 am
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Im confused about watts, volts, AC, DC, etc -- my laptop says it requires 90w (or is it v)? But, I read on BA board that you can take the battery out and its uses less power. So, would one of these standard auto-->plug-in types work for this laptop? Such as: http://www.kensington.com./html/3845.html

Im kicking myself for buying this Dell without checking it out further. I wouldnt normally care too much about air power, but I need to have some stuff ready before I get to LON.

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Old Feb 14, 2004, 1:07 pm
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Bought an Inspiron 5100 in 5/03 and returned it within three weeks. Touchpad went out, couldn't get any of 3 (brands recommended by Dell) adapters to work with the power draw on the unit (90W consumption vs. 75W output from AA) though someone here mentioned that the unit would run in a somewhat "reduced performance" mode. Support was also abysmal with incompetent reps, lack of action and multiple over-one-hour-hold-time tech calls.

I never could get it to work on DC power on a plane...a tech support guy at Dell finally told me that it was designed to be a desktop replacement more than a mobile unit and tried to move me into a much higher priced Latitude model. Others here have posted having some DC power success with the 5100, but these may be later produced models... there may have been some kind of "fix" engineered from the time I bought my unit.

FWIW, the same problem applies with some of the Sony Vaio's and certain other laptops....the mfr's don't tell you this, but it's VERY important to check the wattage consumption requirement before buying the laptop IMHO. I don't think the Centrino or Pentium M models suffer from this problem, though, IIRC it was a P4 problem, mainly.
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Old Feb 14, 2004, 1:22 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by fredmartens:
FWIW, the same problem applies with some of the Sony Vaio's and certain other laptops....the mfr's don't tell you this, but it's VERY important to check the wattage consumption requirement before buying the laptop IMHO.</font>
Very true.

The Sony Vaio GRT270G (a media-enhanced P4 model) draws an astonishing 135 watts

The Vaio models with Pentium M / Centrino technology draw about 68 watts or less.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by AA_SPG_Fan:
Hey there mikel .. thanks for the reply. Is this the adapter:

http://www.apcc.com/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sk u=PNOTEAC140&language=en&LOCAL.APCCountryCode=US
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This is the model I was thinking of (and that I own).

http://www.apcc.com/products/family/...le%20Computing

It works well for both auto and airplane. It is only 75 watts, so you will have to use your 5100 in reduced power mode.

You can also get the Targus Universal Auto/Air adapter (Model #:PAPWR200U) or the Targus Universal AC/DC (Model #:PAPWR300U) and use power tip #118. Again--the airplane won't supply enough power so you will have to work in reduced power mode. The AC/DC adapter is nice because you will only need one power adapter for your trip instead of needing one for AC and one for DC.

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If anyone wants an APC PNOTEAC75 (75 watt), I ordered two and have an extra one. Bought it for $36 on eBay.

I'll be testing both on an AA plane flight Mar 2, but they work fine in my car.

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Old Feb 15, 2004, 12:58 pm
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Let this be a warning when you buy a P4 over a Pentium-M these days... Most P4 mobile systems are on average drawing 85watts, with some systems as mentioned drawing 130watts or greater.

If you plan to travel with a notebook more than once a quarter look for something with a Pentium M (a lower clock rate but more efficent x86 CPU)
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Old Feb 15, 2004, 1:47 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Non-NonRev:
Keep in mind that the on-board power systems only supply 70 watts of power - I don't know if that would be a factor in using the APCC unit. </font>
I keep seeing this reference (again, not familar with electrical terms) -- but is this just for the standard Empower airline connections or those special to American Airlines? If I look at the 777 config info on the aa website, they say its a standard auto-plug that hooks up to 15v of power. If the APC would work in my car, wouldnt that mean a 90w laptop work?

http://www.aa.com/content/travelInfo...chnology.jhtml

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Old Feb 15, 2004, 1:50 pm
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Yikes!!!
I will be taking my new Dell Inspiron 8500 on it's first flight (EWR-HKG!!!!)next month. According to the Dell Website, the Targus adapter for it will pull 70w and operate in "Battery optimized" mode. Does this mean no DVD?

Sixteen hours and no computer sounds like inflight movie torture.
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Old Feb 16, 2004, 5:45 am
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by AA_SPG_Fan:
I keep seeing this reference (again, not familar with electrical terms) -- but is this just for the standard Empower airline connections or those special to American Airlines? If I look at the 777 config info on the aa website, they say its a standard auto-plug that hooks up to 15v of power. If the APC would work in my car, wouldnt that mean a 90w laptop work?
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Amps * volts = watts.

An airplane adapter that supplies 15v probably will not have sufficient amperage to run 90w at full power. As noted, you may be able to run at reduced power, or run but not be able to recharge the battery.

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