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Aug 27, 2003 | 6:24 pm

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Originally posted by skofarrell:
Take a look at the Archos Jukebox Studio 20. It is a system that can get upgraded to your hearts content. I'd recommend the Studio 20, with the Rockbox software, and replace the Archos batteries with some 2100 mAh AA batteries.

You get a great 20gb mp3 player, 20gb of portable PC/Mac disk storage, and about 14-16 hours of life for about $250

Studio 20:
http://www.archos.com/products/prw_500214.html

Rockbox rom:
http://rockbox.haxx.se/

2100 mAh batteries:
http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?query=2100+mah&ht=1&sosortproperty =1&from=R10&BasicSearch=

You keep your Archos monster, I'll wait for this one:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/54/32469.html

Aug 27, 2003 | 6:52 pm

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Originally posted by ScottC:
You keep your Archos monster, I'll wait for this one:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/54/32469.html

Have to admit, that is kinda cool. Love the name: Gigabeat

Aug 27, 2003 | 9:20 pm

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Toshiba is touting its support for Microsoft's Windows Media Player 9 format, which presumably means its DRM'd to the hilt.

Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzt. Thanks for playing.

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Aug 27, 2003 | 9:22 pm

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Originally posted by DavidNZ:
For what you own on CD, you don't convert to mp3 then to ATRAC. Straight to ATRAC from CD.

If all you do is download mp3s from the net, then an Ipod is for you. If you're looking to make your extensive (and legal) music collection mobile, then a minidisc player is best.

Software inadequacies are surmountable. The fact that most people on the planet use Windows is proof of this.

All my mp3's are legal, and all are ripped at either 160k or 192k.

I can't believe you're saying MD is best. How can you top carrying every cd I own, usb 2.0 transfer rate, 14+ hours run time, laptop storage, and an open format vs. a Sony all proprietary system that limits what you can do with your own legally ripped music?

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Aug 27, 2003 | 9:30 pm

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I use to own a Minidisc player, but stopped using it after I got my gen 1 iPod.

It was always a pain to remember to bring my favorite discs and to keep records of what songs were on which disc.

Now everything is in one portable device, on my Powerbook, and on the CDs.

I don't have many songs though, only around 1100, around 4.3 GBs

I dropped it a few times, but it still works though is a bit dented. I don't expect that I will need a replacement for at least a few more years.

Aug 28, 2003 | 12:18 am

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OK, truth be told: the only reason I big on the MD format is that my wife wouldn't let me buy an Ipod. I had to sneak-buy the minidisc, so I gotta justify it to myself somehow!

Besides, I don't wanna carry my entire collection with me. I'm fine with USB 1.1 (I'm in no rush), and the sony prop software hasn't hindered me one bit.

Aug 28, 2003 | 1:55 am

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Originally posted by skofarrell:
Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzt. Thanks for playing.

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A 20GB 1.8” hard disk is packed into the mini-disc shaped aluminum body. The Toshiba Gigabeat G20 not only plays MP3 files but also supports the highly compressed Windows Media 9 audio format.

May we have the next contestant please?

Oh, and you of all people should know that WMP9 does NOT always mean DRM!

Aug 28, 2003 | 1:59 am

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Another I'm looking at is this one:

http://www.digitalnetworksna.com/sho...io.asp?cat=53#

Plays OGG files AND has an ethernet docking cradle... mmmmmmm.....

Aug 28, 2003 | 5:44 am

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Another I'm looking at is this one:

http://www.digitalnetworksna.com/sho...io.asp?cat=53#

Plays OGG files AND has an ethernet docking cradle... mmmmmmm.....

Now yer talkin!

Aug 28, 2003 | 7:13 am

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Now yer talkin!

The Karma’s many features and small size set a new standard for high-capacity players. Its 20GB* drive can carry over 5,000 songs*. Powerful tools include cross-fader, 5-band parametric equalizer, Ogg Vorbis and FLAC support, and a huge, backlit display capable of visualizations, animated menus, and 16 shades of gray. USB 2.0 provides fast transfers while the included docking station also adds drop-in charging, RCA Line-Out, and an Ethernet port for networking. Simple menus and intuitive controls make it easy to pick up and use. Helpful functions like auto-synchronization with Rio Music Manager, Rio DJ, and dynamic playlist generation make the Karma as effortless as you want it to be.

Karma 20 comes in black on light gray, Karma 40 comes in black on dark gray

Dimensions: 2.7” X 3.0” X 0.9”
Weight: 5.5oz
Battery: 15-hour continuous playback on internal Li Ion battery
LCD: 49mm, 160x128, indigo backlight, 16 shade grayscale

20GB* HDD plays back over 330 hours of MP3 or 660 hours of WMA music (over 5000 MP3 or 10,000 WMA songs)**
USB 2.0 for fast transfers
Transfer content between multiple PCs
15-hour continuous playback with the rechargeable LiIon battery
5-Band parametric equalizer with pre-sets
Dynamic playlist generation
Auto-DJ intelligently finds, mixes and creates playlists from tracks on command
Included docking station supports: – Dual RCA Line-Outs to connect to most home stereo components – Ethernet port — Assign an IP address for networking capability – Auto-synchronization with host PC
Plays Ogg Vorbis

Aug 28, 2003 | 7:42 am

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Bikergirl, you can use the iPod along with the excellend ephPod software on Windows and sync the music back and forth. ephPod is free and is eons better than that MusicMatch crap.

I like the newest GigaBeat as well. This is the third generation of it and it looks pretty slick.

ScottC, I expect better of you than telling people to buy an MD player. Maybe an 8-track deck with a coin slot on the side and a car battery in a backpack? You should be ashamed of yourself!

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Aug 28, 2003 | 11:35 am

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[b]ScottC, I expect better of you than telling people to buy an MD player. Maybe an 8-track deck with a coin slot on the side and a car battery in a backpack? You should be ashamed of yourself!

He's still busy working on copying his extensive 8" floppy archives to a 128mb MemoryStick

Sep 20, 2005 | 6:26 pm

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Before you buy an ipod listen to other players. Ipod is the most popular player because it is the most popular player. It's simple and it works. I'm not saying it sounds bad. It's fine. But there are other things that sound better. I tunes is probably the best proprietary software though. Gigabeat room, SS, and the mrobe thing are much worse. Why can't everything just be drap and drop and support playlists on the fly? Seems like that would keep development costs down.