Avoid using Sim card
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Avoid using Sim card
I have a Iphone with latest update installed. We will be travelling to Japan and normally I buy a sim card there and replace my German Telekom sim. Now I want to buy a esim, but I am somewhat apprehensive that some data will use the Telekom card and so causing a high bill.
What are my options:
1.Install the esim and take out the sim card. Easy, safe, but I might lose or damage my sim card.
2. Install the esim and disable the sim card. How do I disable the sim so it would not connect to the internet or receive sms?
Thanks
What are my options:
1.Install the esim and take out the sim card. Easy, safe, but I might lose or damage my sim card.
2. Install the esim and disable the sim card. How do I disable the sim so it would not connect to the internet or receive sms?
Thanks
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I have a Iphone with latest update installed. We will be travelling to Japan and normally I buy a sim card there and replace my German Telekom sim. Now I want to buy a esim, but I am somewhat apprehensive that some data will use the Telekom card and so causing a high bill.
What are my options:
1.Install the esim and take out the sim card. Easy, safe, but I might lose or damage my sim card.
2. Install the esim and disable the sim card. How do I disable the sim so it would not connect to the internet or receive sms?
Thanks
What are my options:
1.Install the esim and take out the sim card. Easy, safe, but I might lose or damage my sim card.
2. Install the esim and disable the sim card. How do I disable the sim so it would not connect to the internet or receive sms?
Thanks
iPhones can be configured to use IMS over WiFI with the Telekom sim data disabled. Wifi is turned on, the data of the local esim is used to retrieve the messages for the number associated with the Telekom sim.
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In addition to the above, on iPhones you can completely disable the physical SIM in the settings by flipping a toggle, the same as disabling an eSIM. That'll prevent you from receiving calls and SMS in addition to switching off data.
The toggle (and the individual SIM menu that contains it) only shows up if you have multiple SIMs installed.
The toggle (and the individual SIM menu that contains it) only shows up if you have multiple SIMs installed.
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Sims/esims data can be disabled in the settings to prevent roaming data charges. You could retrieve the messages by connecting to the hotel WiFi.
iPhones can be configured to use IMS over WiFI with the Telekom sim data disabled. Wifi is turned on, the data of the local esim is used to retrieve the messages for the number associated with the Telekom sim.
iPhones can be configured to use IMS over WiFI with the Telekom sim data disabled. Wifi is turned on, the data of the local esim is used to retrieve the messages for the number associated with the Telekom sim.
Physical SIMs were treated differently if you physically removed them vs. disabling; Apple (historically, though there have been reports of difficulty lately) gave a 30 day grace period during which time you could continue to keep using iMessage and FaceTime despite that number not being currently associated with the phone. Not so if you turn off the line in the iPhone settings (whether physical or eSIM).
Disabling data roaming but leaving the SIM otherwise enabled is another option, though it of course won’t stop everything (such as phone calls and SMS that don’t rely on data).
Last edited by javabytes; Aug 19, 23 at 10:07 am
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This isnt really correct. Ive had iMessage problems/annoyances when disabling the SIM. It goes without saying you wouldnt receive any SMS messages sent to you by non-Apple users but when disabling the SIM, it disables the line altogether on your phone and disassociates it from your iMessage numbers on your Apple account. You cannot send or receive iMessages over Wi-Fi or other data connection using your phone number if the SIM is disabled; even if the local SIM is providing a data connection, you are not able to use that to retrieve the messages for the number associated with the other SIM that you have disabled.
Physical SIMs were treated differently if you physically removed them vs. disabling; Apple (historically, though there have been reports of difficulty lately) gave a 30 day grace period during which time you could continue to keep using iMessage and FaceTime despite that number not being currently associated with the phone. Not so if you turn off the line in the iPhone settings (whether physical or eSIM).
Physical SIMs were treated differently if you physically removed them vs. disabling; Apple (historically, though there have been reports of difficulty lately) gave a 30 day grace period during which time you could continue to keep using iMessage and FaceTime despite that number not being currently associated with the phone. Not so if you turn off the line in the iPhone settings (whether physical or eSIM).
My non cellular iPad is able to send and receive imessages using my cell number or my email. The same with FaceTime on the same iPad.
I said to disable the data for a sim. You said disable a sim which is completely different than what I said. My iPhone with data disabled receives messages from my work Android phone since I have WiFi enabled and my carrier supports service over WiFi.
Last edited by TGarza; Aug 21, 23 at 10:47 am
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This isnt really correct. Ive had iMessage problems/annoyances when disabling the SIM. It goes without saying you wouldnt receive any SMS messages sent to you by non-Apple users but when disabling the SIM, it disables the line altogether on your phone and disassociates it from your iMessage numbers on your Apple account. You cannot send or receive iMessages over Wi-Fi or other data connection using your phone number if the SIM is disabled; even if the local SIM is providing a data connection, you are not able to use that to retrieve the messages for the number associated with the other SIM that you have disabled.
Physical SIMs were treated differently if you physically removed them vs. disabling; Apple (historically, though there have been reports of difficulty lately) gave a 30 day grace period during which time you could continue to keep using iMessage and FaceTime despite that number not being currently associated with the phone. Not so if you turn off the line in the iPhone settings (whether physical or eSIM).
Disabling data roaming but leaving the SIM otherwise enabled is another option, though it of course wont stop everything (such as phone calls and SMS that dont rely on data).
Physical SIMs were treated differently if you physically removed them vs. disabling; Apple (historically, though there have been reports of difficulty lately) gave a 30 day grace period during which time you could continue to keep using iMessage and FaceTime despite that number not being currently associated with the phone. Not so if you turn off the line in the iPhone settings (whether physical or eSIM).
Disabling data roaming but leaving the SIM otherwise enabled is another option, though it of course wont stop everything (such as phone calls and SMS that dont rely on data).