New laptop - Solid state or HDD?
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Never buy the cheapest laptops. They are cheaply made with plastic, cheaper parts, etc. Acer is just that. Always get at least the mid-level.
SSD is probably the better options for 90% of people. If you plan to store a lot, maybe not so much. Even if you store a lot, there are other options. Otherwise, the battery life and performance improvements of an SSD make it the better choice.
SSD is probably the better options for 90% of people. If you plan to store a lot, maybe not so much. Even if you store a lot, there are other options. Otherwise, the battery life and performance improvements of an SSD make it the better choice.
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wow HDD vs SSD reminds me of Beta vs VHS
Its 2020 this battle of SSD versus HDD is over. The next question should be SSD vs. NvMe, you will find significant improvements in performance again. Especially those devices that have adopted the NvMe protocol. And after that it will be NvMe vs SCM (storage class memory) still too expensive for even high end laptops.
HDD = Beta Tapes
SSD = VHS tapes
NvMe = DVD's
Each had their time and their place, even if their time was short. I can see a very large HDD for eternal backups of many machines, but for single it is best to continue using SSD externally (IMO).
HDD = Beta Tapes
SSD = VHS tapes
NvMe = DVD's
Each had their time and their place, even if their time was short. I can see a very large HDD for eternal backups of many machines, but for single it is best to continue using SSD externally (IMO).
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Its 2020 this battle of SSD versus HDD is over. The next question should be SSD vs. NvMe, you will find significant improvements in performance again. Especially those devices that have adopted the NvMe protocol. And after that it will be NvMe vs SCM (storage class memory) still too expensive for even high end laptops.
HDD = Beta Tapes
SSD = VHS tapes
NvMe = DVD's
Each had their time and their place, even if their time was short. I can see a very large HDD for eternal backups of many machines, but for single it is best to continue using SSD externally (IMO).
HDD = Beta Tapes
SSD = VHS tapes
NvMe = DVD's
Each had their time and their place, even if their time was short. I can see a very large HDD for eternal backups of many machines, but for single it is best to continue using SSD externally (IMO).
Beta and VHS were competitors of each others. But HDD and SSD are not exactly in such relationship. NVMe is considered a form of SSD.
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WIth SSD and NVMe, the difference is the interface. The SATA interface(even SATA3) is the bottleneck that NVMe eliminates. You can get housings to use NVMe drives in SATA bays. I guess handy if you want to use data or whatever in a computer that doesn;t have NVMe.
Thought not nearly as disparate in speed, I'd put the comparison as:
HDD = FDD
SSD = ODD
NVMe = HDD
I amazed some people in another website when I posed a question about the 3.5" FDD in my HTPC grinding randomly (supposed the anti-virus working). AT least it is a 5.25" or even an 8" floppy (were there 12/13" ones?)
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thanks for add ing the bits I left out
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WIth SSD and NVMe, the difference is the interface. The SATA interface(even SATA3) is the bottleneck that NVMe eliminates. You can get housings to use NVMe drives in SATA bays. I guess handy if you want to use data or whatever in a computer that doesn;t have NVMe.
Thought not nearly as disparate in speed, I'd put the comparison as:
HDD = FDD
SSD = ODD
NVMe = HDD
I amazed some people in another website when I posed a question about the 3.5" FDD in my HTPC grinding randomly (supposed the anti-virus working). AT least it is a 5.25" or even an 8" floppy (were there 12/13" ones?)
WIth SSD and NVMe, the difference is the interface. The SATA interface(even SATA3) is the bottleneck that NVMe eliminates. You can get housings to use NVMe drives in SATA bays. I guess handy if you want to use data or whatever in a computer that doesn;t have NVMe.
Thought not nearly as disparate in speed, I'd put the comparison as:
HDD = FDD
SSD = ODD
NVMe = HDD
I amazed some people in another website when I posed a question about the 3.5" FDD in my HTPC grinding randomly (supposed the anti-virus working). AT least it is a 5.25" or even an 8" floppy (were there 12/13" ones?)
But I guess my reference was out of place since I am old and lived the BETA (Sony better) versus VHS (everyone else cheaper) war. And it just seemed like that all over again. IN this case SSD is superior to HDD in all aspects for the internal drive of a laptop (once again my opinion). And as another has stated here like them I changed out a HDD to a SSD in a buddies machine and then he did not need to buy a new machine it was faster then new.
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But I guess my reference was out of place since I am old and lived the BETA (Sony better) versus VHS (everyone else cheaper) war. And it just seemed like that all over again. IN this case SSD is superior to HDD in all aspects for the internal drive of a laptop (once again my opinion). And as another has stated here like them I changed out a HDD to a SSD in a buddies machine and then he did not need to buy a new machine it was faster then new.
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Not a format war at all. Just stuff that people don't know about. I'd compare it to people who are booting their PCs with old HDDs, or an even worse case, FDD (someone must remember running DOS and Win 2.X from floppies), and just not knowing any better (or knowing of better/faster alternatives). Just like some people have no idea what RAM is or what more can do/does.
Still plenty of people using hard disks, though, and plenty of new laptops and desktops still coming with HDDs instead of SSDs.
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I still support 3.5", 5.25", and ZIP disks at my office. We don't use floppies ourselves at this point, but we still have clients who do. Our office VoIP PBX is from ~2002 or so, running on CentOS 6, with 24 year old parts inside the box. Actually ordering its replacement this week.
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You'd be shocked at how many embedded systems running ancient hardware and software are still out there. Win 3.11, OS/2, DOS, Windows NT, and a bunch of weird orphans are still alive and kicking out there. A large facility in the city I'm in now is running both Win 3.11 and MS-DOS 5.0.
I still support 3.5", 5.25", and ZIP disks at my office. We don't use floppies ourselves at this point, but we still have clients who do. Our office VoIP PBX is from ~2002 or so, running on CentOS 6, with 24 year old parts inside the box. Actually ordering its replacement this week.
I still support 3.5", 5.25", and ZIP disks at my office. We don't use floppies ourselves at this point, but we still have clients who do. Our office VoIP PBX is from ~2002 or so, running on CentOS 6, with 24 year old parts inside the box. Actually ordering its replacement this week.

