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Old Feb 12, 2020, 10:19 am
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Reading an old Mac floppy?

I found a 3.5" floppy in the lock box I had when I was a kid and I'm dying to know what 12 year old me thought important enough to put on a floppy and lock it away. I have a USB floppy drive.

I've tried running MacDisk and it says it can't find the Macintosh volume header. Windows 10 says it's not a valid disk. I am 100% sure that I would have used a Mac to create the disk...my trusty old Mac IIsi running System 7 or System 8.

Are there any other things I could try or is the disk just hopelessly degraded at this point? Perhaps there's a way to pull the data off the disk bit by bit and analyze it?
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Old Feb 12, 2020, 11:50 am
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Originally Posted by gfunkdave
I found a 3.5" floppy in the lock box I had when I was a kid and I'm dying to know what 12 year old me thought important enough to put on a floppy and lock it away.
I wonder what would a 12 years old boy put on a floppy dsk locking it away to hide it from his parents.... hmmm
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Old Feb 12, 2020, 11:54 am
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Oh, no, I had Zip drives for that...

Actually, this predated the Zip drives. I had their predecessor...they were made by Iomega I think and the drive cartridges were more like 5.5" cartridges. Each held 80 MB. I forget what they were called...

I'm sure it was a diary or something like that.

edit: it was the SyQuest drive! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SyQuest_Technology
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Old Feb 12, 2020, 1:27 pm
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Not Bernoulli Box?
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Old Feb 12, 2020, 2:22 pm
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Not Bernoulli Box?
As I recall they were stupidly expensive. Of course, so was the 800 MB external hard drive I got around that time...I think it was $800. People's reaction was, "800 MB?! Are you going to start a BBS or something?"
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Old Feb 12, 2020, 2:47 pm
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Originally Posted by gfunkdave
I've tried running MacDisk and it says it can't find the Macintosh volume header. Windows 10 says it's not a valid disk. I am 100% sure that I would have used a Mac to create the disk...my trusty old Mac IIsi running System 7 or System 8.
I think you need a Mac of that era. IIRC, Macs wrote data on FD differently than MS-DOS machines of that day (when Windows ran over MS-DOS). Macs could read and write MS-DOS format FDs but not the other way around.

https://fletcherpenney.net/2018/02/r...c_floppy_disks
https://lowendmac.com/2016/floppy-di...the-mac-world/

Find an old school MUG perhaps?
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what about the old SCSI drive in an old Mac , is there anyway to read them ?
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Old Feb 12, 2020, 6:25 pm
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ASCII porn?
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Old Feb 12, 2020, 6:32 pm
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ASCII porn?
No , I was on the LA Freenet back in the la te 80s , and probably on a Mac Plus !
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Old Feb 12, 2020, 6:40 pm
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what about the old SCSI drive in an old Mac , is there anyway to read them ?
SCSI interface HD? Haven't seen a controller card for such in decades. Not sure if my sister still has my old desktop (in Kensington) but it has a SCSI controller. 2GB was a huge amount of space in the mid '90s.
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My Google search found a blog post, that seems to describe the problems in reading old Mac floppies in detail and offers hints on affordable solution.
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Old Feb 13, 2020, 3:32 am
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I have some old functioning Apples and Macs still around from the late 1980s and early 1990s. I haven't turned them on in ages. At some point I will probably have to toss them. I also have some ancient Apple ][ computer with something like 8kb of memory, and the last time I started it up was about a decade ago. I had forgotten that there were computers with such little memory, but maybe that was because the TRS-80 had more.

My excuse for keeping these around was that I still had files from using them. Not sure the soft or hard floppies still all work. The TRS-80 used to have me running things from a tape recorder IIRC.
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Old Feb 13, 2020, 3:58 am
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I have some old functioning Apples and Macs still around from the late 1980s and early 1990s. I haven't turned them on in ages. At some point I will probably have to toss them. I also have some ancient Apple ][ computer with something like 8kb of memory, and the last time I started it up was about a decade ago. I had forgotten that there were computers with such little memory, but maybe that was because the TRS-80 had more.

My excuse for keeping these around was that I still had files from using them. Not sure the soft or hard floppies still all work. The TRS-80 used to have me running things from a tape recorder IIRC.
Ah, used to have Mod I computers in high school. Nothing like taking 10 minutes to load a small program on your 16k computer, and then it not loading correctly.

There are still programs for my Mod III that worked better than anything I have today.
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Old Feb 13, 2020, 7:04 am
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Originally Posted by GUWonder
I have some old functioning Apples and Macs still around from the late 1980s and early 1990s. I haven't turned them on in ages. At some point I will probably have to toss them. I also have some ancient Apple ][ computer with something like 8kb of memory, and the last time I started it up was about a decade ago. I had forgotten that there were computers with such little memory, but maybe that was because the TRS-80 had more.

My excuse for keeping these around was that I still had files from using them. Not sure the soft or hard floppies still all work. The TRS-80 used to have me running things from a tape recorder IIRC.
They are probably worth a lot of money especially if the 8kb memory Apple computer is an Apple 1
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Old Feb 13, 2020, 7:26 am
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My Google search found a blog post, that seems to describe the problems in reading old Mac floppies in detail and offers hints on affordable solution.
Hah, their solution is to buy an old Mac.

In any case, the disk I'm trying to read is a 1.44 MB HD floppy, which according to that article a USB floppy drive should be able to read.
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