Replacing Lastpass with Bitwarden
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I've been using keepass myself. It might be more convenient to use one of the others but I really dread the day we see a report saying "password manager x" has been compromised and that the passwords were not as secured as everyone thought. It might be inconvenient, but at least I can keep my passwords a bit more under my control. No cloud for the file, it's kept on one desktop, one laptop and in my backups.
It does make some issues harder to deal with... Like with the current version giving an access error when I quit on my laptop, but better than the alternatives.
It does make some issues harder to deal with... Like with the current version giving an access error when I quit on my laptop, but better than the alternatives.
edit: it was Andrew Carnegie, not Mark Twain
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Moved over to bitlocker today from LastPass and also moved from Firefox (decades long user) to Brave (might have to start a thread on Brave)
Really liking both right now.
Really liking both right now.
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So after March 16, I could still look up password on LastPass on my phone. I just need to use the phone browser requesting Desktop site with Lastpass.com. I don't really use Mobile Lastpass that much. All the apps you just need to log in for the first time and after that it remembers the login anyway or use fingerprint to unlock.
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I love Bitwarden because of the built in TOTP feature. And no, it's not less secure -- your phone already has your passwords and authenticator so why not put both in one app? TOTP is mostly against social engineering and malware anyways.
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Yesterday I switched from LastPass to 1Password. My company set us all up with a company subscription to 1Password, and as part of it we get a free family subscription. I realized I like 1Password better - it feels a little more slick. So, I'll keep using it for the next couple weeks until my LastPass subscription renewal, and then decide.
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- The problem with having TOTP alongside the passwords in an app like Bitwarden is that theoretically all of your factors are STORED in one place in the cloud.
- Having a separate App for TOTP (especially one with no cloud backend or a different cloud provider) is definitely "better" because if one of the providers is compromised, attackers don't have both factors.
- I ignore the above two and use the TOTP baked into my password manager for convenience but I'm also cognizant of the "risk" in doing so. My risk/convenience decision may be different than for others.
- For any account that allows it, I use a Yubikey instead for multi-factor. I always have a Yubikey around my neck, and unlike TOTP, Yubikeys are not vulnerable to any known man in the middle attacks (yet).
- Native password management (doesn't work in other browsers other than Safari though
) - TOTP support baked in
- A notes field against every entry.
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I'm curious how the design and integration with Apple products differs - as I understand it they all have to use the same APIs for iOS/iPadOS so they all work the same. I don't have a Mac so I can't comment if that's different.
LastPass and BitWarden are "backed by people in the cyber security world" too. LastPass is owned by LogMeIn, which is a large company. 1Password seems to still be a smallish Canadian company. Not sure how that squares with your assertion that 1Password has more funding or is big.
I'm not saying 1Password is a bad solution. Plenty of people use it and like it. I just am saying that LastPass/1Password are functionally the same and I haven't found a clear reason to use one over the other. I've used LastPass for years and would switch if something better came along, but just haven't found a reason to switch. Plus, I like being devil's advocate
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LastPass and BitWarden are "backed by people in the cyber security world" too. LastPass is owned by LogMeIn, which is a large company. 1Password seems to still be a smallish Canadian company. Not sure how that squares with your assertion that 1Password has more funding or is big.
I'm not saying 1Password is a bad solution. Plenty of people use it and like it. I just am saying that LastPass/1Password are functionally the same and I haven't found a clear reason to use one over the other. I've used LastPass for years and would switch if something better came along, but just haven't found a reason to switch. Plus, I like being devil's advocate
.Anyway, Bitwarden is pretty tempting to switch to since I can store passwords somewhere I trust (much like what I do now with 1Password), whereas most of the other services seem to require you store your passwords on their servers. Not that the others are necessarily untrustworthy, mind you, but it's a bit extra peace of mind.
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Bitwarden stores all your vault encrypted with your master password so merely breaching Bitwarden servers are pointless. Decryption only happens locally. And, again, if you are hacked locally, it matters really little whether you have factors in separate apps.
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Bitwarden, LastPass, and 1Password all do this.
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BitWarden
No Tags
No Document storage w/linking
No Apple Watch unlock
Includes trackers
No creation of new items offline (at least when I last looked)
No Travel Vaults
Only place BitWarden is better than 1Password is price Functionality and polish are nowhere near 1Password
No Tags
No Document storage w/linking
No Apple Watch unlock
Includes trackers
No creation of new items offline (at least when I last looked)
No Travel Vaults
Only place BitWarden is better than 1Password is price Functionality and polish are nowhere near 1Password
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Trackers?! Not on my installs.
Disclaimer: I currently use the $10/yr bitwarden service. Previously used Lastpass and before that 1Password.
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I see no value in any of those, and negative value in a few...
Trackers?! Not on my installs.
If you prefer form over function and don't mind (over)paying for it, 1Password is a good solution. For those of us who prefer the opposite, bitwarden is a better fit. All things being equal, I would almost always take the open source solution I can run at home over some proprietary SW.
Disclaimer: I currently use the $10/yr bitwarden service. Previously used Lastpass and before that 1Password.
Trackers?! Not on my installs.
If you prefer form over function and don't mind (over)paying for it, 1Password is a good solution. For those of us who prefer the opposite, bitwarden is a better fit. All things being equal, I would almost always take the open source solution I can run at home over some proprietary SW.
Disclaimer: I currently use the $10/yr bitwarden service. Previously used Lastpass and before that 1Password.




