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Why is everyone so keen on getting an Airalo eSIM is beyond me. Most of the time other eSIMs offer more value.
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Originally Posted by frappant
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Not as cheap as Airalo?
Which Airalo eSIM give you 100 GB for 12 SGD? I agree most travellers now will use more than that each day, but maybe 7 years ago I could make do with maybe 300MB/day on 3G and otherwise primarily wifi connectivity on my travels. In SG especially, it’s not just hotels, you can get free wifi in places such as MRT stations and McDonalds (and also the airport). |
Originally Posted by Marschel
(Post 36354005)
Why is everyone so keen on getting an Airalo eSIM is beyond me. Most of the time other eSIMs offer more value.
Originally Posted by crackjack
(Post 36354115)
I agree most travellers now will use more than that each day, but maybe 7 years ago I could make do with maybe 300MB/day on 3G and otherwise primarily wifi connectivity on my travels. In SG especially, it’s not just hotels, you can get free wifi in places such as MRT stations and McDonalds (and also the airport).
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Originally Posted by docbert
(Post 36354181)
To me, Airalo gives a good mix of convenience, performance and price for the way that I use data. Doesn't mean they are the cheapest, or the best, or the fastest - but so far I've yet to have a bad experience with Airalo...
In Singapore, I always go with the Singtel option. Yes, 100 GB is way more than I need for the duration of my stays so far, but it's nice not having to worry about data consumption. |
Originally Posted by Majuki
(Post 36354879)
I have the same perspective. Airalo isn't the cheapest, but it provides a convenient option in places where getting a local SIM might have language or process barriers, such as Japan.
In Singapore, I always go with the Singtel option. Yes, 100 GB is way more than I need for the duration of my stays so far, but it's nice not having to worry about data consumption. |
Seems like the Asian carriers are just better at adopting things like eSIMs and offering a lot of data at much lower prices.
If you can get such cheap data in an otherwise expensive place like Singapore, there's no reason European carriers couldn't deliver some comparable offers. Though to be fair, Singapore is a tiny country, though maybe more dense in population maybe, whereas national carriers Western Europe have to cover whole countries and populations of tens of millions, across more challenging terrain. The Orange European eSIM offer is interesting, 100 GB instead of the usual 50 GB across all of Europe for the summer. Obviously they're making money in the promotion and these big European carriers have very good roaming arrangements with each other. Does it mean prepaid data becomes cheaper or they just offer bigger packages of data at a higher price? A lot of these countries though have stringent passport registration requirements for prepaid data. I don't know if being able to get eSIMs without going into mobile shops and having your passport xeroxed is a loophole that they will eventually close. |
Originally Posted by frappant
(Post 36356644)
Though to be fair, Singapore is a tiny country, though maybe more dense in population maybe, whereas national carriers Western Europe have to cover whole countries and populations of tens of millions, across more challenging terrain.
That said, I'm currently posting this via a mobile connection in Australia that cost me A$15 (US$10) for 30 days/100GB. That's not a "normal" price but an on-sale price - but such sales are basically continually occurring. That's for a country with far lower population density than Singapore!
Originally Posted by frappant
(Post 36356644)
A lot of these countries though have stringent passport registration requirements for prepaid data. I don't know if being able to get eSIMs without going into mobile shops and having your passport xeroxed is a loophole that they will eventually close.
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Originally Posted by frappant
(Post 36356644)
A lot of these countries though have stringent passport registration requirements for prepaid data. I don't know if being able to get eSIMs without going into mobile shops and having your passport xeroxed is a loophole that they will eventually close.
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As someone I know has found out to their cost esims have their disadvantages. They were sim-jacked when a scammer got hold of her email and mobile phone number details, probably from a breach somewhere. They then convinced (and it wasn't all that hard apparently) her (UK) Mobile phone network to port her phone number to their esim. Using that they took over her email using the reset password function and used the her phone number registered to her as the two factor authentication. From there it was easy to compromise many other things, and I've been helping with the aftermath. The scammer had set the email to forward to a Gmail account they'd set up and not keep copies.
The mobile network, who have admitted they screwed things up (lack of security checks) and caused all of this. I've reset everything and moved them to a new email address, The bloke in the mobile network's shop said this wouldn't have happened if it was a physical sim because they would have had to send it somewhere and then be traced. I'm being a bit careful with what I write because this is still being investigated. |
Lot of these eSIMs though are short-term.
Travelers looking for data and mobile access for trips. I also wonder, these eSIMs are sold through MVNOs. So do they contact the carriers even though presumably only the MVNOs have your email and phone number? |
Originally Posted by Jimmie76
(Post 36366425)
The bloke in the mobile network's shop said this wouldn't have happened if it was a physical sim because they would have had to send it somewhere and then be traced.
As frappant said, this thread is primarily about sharing experiences with eSIMs to supplement one's main mobile service while traveling internationally. |
Originally Posted by Jimmie76
(Post 36366425)
As someone I know has found out to their cost esims have their disadvantages.
Many phone providers have added extra layers of security to stop this type of attack occurring. Many more still have not yet done so. |
The other thing to consider. Many people use a Google Voice number for 2FA.
Doubtful you can call Google and get them to change the GV SIM or whatever. Main problem is that some institutions won't accept GV number for 2FA so you're stuck using a regular mobile number for SMS for 2FA. I haven't dug into it much but there's a push for passkeys. Not sure if that's better or worse for preventing these kinds of ID theft such as SIM jacking. |
Originally Posted by docbert
(Post 36366470)
Many phone providers have added extra layers of security to stop this type of attack occurring. Many more still have not yet done so.
If Airtel and Jio can figure this out for people paying $4 a month, surely "first-world" carriers can do it too.
Originally Posted by frappant
(Post 36366485)
The other thing to consider. Many people use a Google Voice number for 2FA.
Doubtful you can call Google and get them to change the GV SIM or whatever. |
Originally Posted by Majuki
(Post 36366462)
It's possible for a SIM swap attack to happen with a physical SIM card as well.
Originally Posted by Majuki
(Post 36366462)
An eSIM doesn't necessarily make things any easier when the weakest link is the employee who allowed the SIM change.
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