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draver Sep 8, 2023 4:57 am

What type of service, how much data, for how long would be useful factors for Qatar roaming pricing.

You can do a quick search on: https://esimdb.com/ to get an idea for current pricing.

ecgz88 Sep 10, 2023 12:21 am

https://esim.ifreegroup.com/buy/2?gr...product_id=348

Europe 31 countries 1GB 15 days $2

don't know what they mean free 5 day 5GB?

ecgz88 Sep 10, 2023 12:26 am

https://instabridge.com/mobile-data/europe/

Europe 42 countries 10GB 30 days $19

Buster Sep 15, 2023 4:05 pm

Sitting here in Canada, and for the life of me, I cannot get Flexiroam to work. I can connect to either Bell or Telus, but then my phone says I have no Internet connection. I'm using a Pixel 5a. Flexiroam tech support can't offer me anything other than to keep trying to reboot.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Majuki Sep 15, 2023 6:23 pm


Originally Posted by Buster (Post 35584403)
Sitting here in Canada, and for the life of me, I cannot get Flexiroam to work. I can connect to either Bell or Telus, but then my phone says I have no Internet connection. I'm using a Pixel 5a. Flexiroam tech support can't offer me anything other than to keep trying to reboot.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Are the APN settings correct?

Buster Sep 15, 2023 10:08 pm


Originally Posted by Majuki (Post 35584650)
Are the APN settings correct?

Flexiroam support said they were. They suggested I switch to the LTE network, and we ultimately got it working. Does Flexiroam only support LTE? That seems odd.

Majuki Sep 16, 2023 1:14 am


Originally Posted by Buster (Post 35585015)
Flexiroam support said they were. They suggested I switch to the LTE network, and we ultimately got it working. Does Flexiroam only support LTE? That seems odd.

Others could provide more information. I've never used Flexiroam, but it's possible that it's limited to LTE.

shuuy Sep 17, 2023 4:38 am

I wish I bookmarked it…

But I think I remember stumbling on a reasonably priced Europe + USA plan (not global). 5GB over 30 days for US$25.

has anyone had a positive experience with a multi region esim?

Zorak Sep 17, 2023 12:00 pm


Originally Posted by shuuy (Post 35587944)
I wish I bookmarked it…

But I think I remember stumbling on a reasonably priced Europe + USA plan (not global). 5GB over 30 days for US$25.

has anyone had a positive experience with a multi region esim?

I've been pretty satisfied with Keepgo; their hook being that the data on their eSIMs is good for year, but you can extend it indefinitely as long as you top it up. If you're going to be making multiple trips to covered region(s) over a longer time period, the pricing can be more favorable than a 7/15/30 day plan etc. (I am generalizing broadly, so this definitely will not pencil out in all cases, you kinda just have to see) They have different packages depending on the country/countries you are interested in, and in some cases it's a lot more expensive (e.g. I recently went with Airalo for a short trip to India)

shuuy Sep 17, 2023 12:34 pm

I found it! Ubigi USA+Europe 5GB for $12/mo

Then I found

Code:

Monthly data plans can be cancelled anytime after three months.
Looks like it's two separate plans for me now

paperwastage Sep 17, 2023 4:21 pm


Originally Posted by shuuy (Post 35588883)
I found it! Ubigi USA+Europe 5GB for $12/mo

Then I found

Code:

Monthly data plans can be cancelled anytime after three months.
Looks like it's two separate plans for me now

Manet has Europe+USA 5GB 17eur


https://manet.travel/?id=14.

Monty has multiple plans, some cover Europe+USA for 5GB 11usd 30 day
https://montyesim.com/shop-plans

EU is generally cheap, depending on your usage, you can buy a cheap EU plan and use PAYG data (4-9 EUR/GB in USA, yesim (annual) or RedBullMobile(month) or esimplus(no expiry) RBM even roams on verizon/att/TMobile last I checked, which is rare). Or even $90/30,GB 2 year Eskimo, you don't "waste" your data if you use only 0.8GB in the month except for RBM

bukzin Sep 23, 2023 11:03 pm

A related question…. Can I forward my incoming voice calls to my Google Fi (on a Pixel 6) to my WhatsApp account?

Would my phone ring in Vietnam with my WhatsApp service?

Want to use an esim and turn off Google Fi data.


Thx

docbert Sep 24, 2023 6:25 am


Originally Posted by shuuy (Post 35587944)
has anyone had a positive experience with a multi region esim?

There's one big catch with multi-region eSIMs, although in fairness it's a catch for many non-multi-region eSIMs as well too!

Roaming traffic is almost always backhauled to the country that the SIM you're using is from. So say you had a US T-Mobile account, and you were travelling in Asia, then all of the traffic would first route back to the US, then out to the internet. This adds latency, and can slow things down - although if the services you're accessing are in the US then it doesn't really change much.

Travel eSIM are often roaming SIMs as well, but they are also sometimes local. So for example, I've used 2 different travel eSIMs in Israel over the past few months. One was from a provider that was apparently based in the US, so all traffic was backhauled to the US. The second was a local provider, so traffic routed directly to Israel.

Multi-region eSIMs are always going to be roaming - at least in some countries. If your SIM happens to be from a provider in the US, then when you're in Europe all of your traffic will be backhauled to the US. If it's a Europe provider, your US traffic will be backhauled to Europe. If it happens to be an Asian provider (eg, 3 Hong Kong who are a common travel eSIM provider), both will be backhauled to Asia!

As I said, this backhauling can happen for any eSIM (unless you know it's from a local telco), but the odds of it happening are greater for the "worldwide" or "multi-region" packages. Of course, depending on what you're doing, you may not care. If you're just using Google Maps, email and some web pages, both will work equally fine. If you're trying to route phone calls over it, you might care a little more about the latency of the call literally being routed around the world.

The biggest issue with companies like Airalo is that they generally don't tell you what country the eSIM you're buying is from, and thus which country your data will be backhauled to. Sometimes it's obvious (eg, their Thailand eSIM is branded as dtac who are a local Thai provider, so clearly it's local), but often it's not (eg, their US eSIM is from Change who are not a well known US provider - but given it apparently uses both the T-Mobile and Verizon networks, odds are that it's a roaming provider!)

docbert Sep 24, 2023 6:29 am


Originally Posted by bukzin (Post 35607453)
A related question…. Can I forward my incoming voice calls to my Google Fi (on a Pixel 6) to my WhatsApp account?

Would my phone ring in Vietnam with my WhatsApp service?

Want to use an esim and turn off Google Fi data.

No. Whatsapp only supports WhatsApp->WhatsApp calls, they don't have way to receive/forward calls from a standard phone provider.

However you can do what you want. The Pixel 6 supports "Backup Calling", which allows one of your SIMs to make what is basically a Wifi Call over the other SIM. So get an eSIM for the country you're in, turn off roaming on the Google Fi SIM, and then turn on Backup Calling for that SIM. Any calls to/from the Google Fi number will route over the data connection for the eSIM, and basically be treated as a Wifi call by Fi (ie, no roaming charges).

TGarza Sep 24, 2023 9:17 am


Originally Posted by docbert (Post 35607992)
The Pixel 6 supports "Backup Calling", which allows one of your SIMs to make what is basically a Wifi Call over the other SIM. So get an eSIM for the country you're in, turn off roaming on the Google Fi SIM, and then turn on Backup Calling for that SIM. Any calls to/from the Google Fi number will route over the data connection for the eSIM, and basically be treated as a Wifi call by Fi (ie, no roaming charges).

It is baffling to me why more Android phones don’t support this option. iPhones have supported this type of calling for several years. At one time I carried a phone with a local sim with hotspot on to connect my domestic using WiFi. To me, this was a game changer when traveling internationally to use a roaming sim paired with my domestic sim.


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