Using wifi safely while abroad
#1
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Join Date: Aug 2011
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Using wifi safely while abroad
I am cross-eyed from researching this subject and still don't know the best way to go. I'm going to be in the United Kingdom for 16 days in June, and would like to text, access email, social media, and, in an emergency, banking/credit card sites. Not that concerned about phone calls. Obviously public Wifi is not safe, so I've looked at VPN subscriptions as well as cellular plans.. (Have read very negative reviews of free VPNs.) Apparently cellular access is considered safe, but expensive so I looked at AT&T International Day Pass & AT&T Passport.. Does anybody have any suggestions or experiences from using any of these methods?
How I miss the days of innocence when I blithely logged onto public wifi and did whatever I wanted.
How I miss the days of innocence when I blithely logged onto public wifi and did whatever I wanted.
#3
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I'm not so sure about cell service being expensive in the UK. When I went late last year it was something like 25 or 30 for 30+GB of data on 3--more than enough for the amount of time you're staying and what you're going to be using. I was even able to use tethering, despite stuff I read online claiming I wouldn't be able to.
If anything, roaming from your US carrier will likely be way more expensive (or slower).
If anything, roaming from your US carrier will likely be way more expensive (or slower).
#4
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What exactly is your concern? Just about every email provider, bank website, Facebook, and most other sites will use TLS these days. Nobody will be able to eavesdrop. They'll know what site you're visiting, but that's it. And if you get a VPN provider, the VPN provider will know what site you're visiting. The only need for a VPN is to spoof your location or if your local ISP censors your access to the web - neither of which is likely to be a concern in the UK.
Enjoy your trip.
Enjoy your trip.
#6


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I'll let others respond to the public VPN options. I have a VPN set up back to my office that I use when necessary.
AT&T passport is an international data plan. It is expensive for what you get and there is a per minute usage charge for voice calls.
AT&T International Day pass extends your home voice/data plan internationally and it works well. You can use voice/data as you would at home with no additional usage fees. It's $10 per 24 hour period and it lets you use your phone off your regular rate plan and voice/data allotment. I use it often for short trips as it is convenient and once you enable it on your line there is nothing else you need to do and you can decide whether to use it or not. For 16 days it would be $150 or $160 depending on when you turned it on. You could certainly find a less expensive options but for ease of use this just lets you use your phone to make and receive calls and use data just as you would at home. All calls to and from the US and Day pass countries are included so you can call to UK numbers and US numbers at no charge. One thing to watch out for is that if you have WIFI calling enabled and turned on and dial a UK or international number it will charge as an international call originating in the US. If you make the call over cellular it will be free.
AT&T International Day pass extends your home voice/data plan internationally and it works well. You can use voice/data as you would at home with no additional usage fees. It's $10 per 24 hour period and it lets you use your phone off your regular rate plan and voice/data allotment. I use it often for short trips as it is convenient and once you enable it on your line there is nothing else you need to do and you can decide whether to use it or not. For 16 days it would be $150 or $160 depending on when you turned it on. You could certainly find a less expensive options but for ease of use this just lets you use your phone to make and receive calls and use data just as you would at home. All calls to and from the US and Day pass countries are included so you can call to UK numbers and US numbers at no charge. One thing to watch out for is that if you have WIFI calling enabled and turned on and dial a UK or international number it will charge as an international call originating in the US. If you make the call over cellular it will be free.
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What exactly is your concern? Just about every email provider, bank website, Facebook, and most other sites will use TLS these days. Nobody will be able to eavesdrop. They'll know what site you're visiting, but that's it. And if you get a VPN provider, the VPN provider will know what site you're visiting. The only need for a VPN is to spoof your location or if your local ISP censors your access to the web - neither of which is likely to be a concern in the UK.
Enjoy your trip.
Enjoy your trip.
#9
Join Date: Apr 2014
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I strongly disagree with those saying you don't need to use a VPN when using public wifi. It's just not worth the risk. Do you want to actively 'manage' what sites your visiting? Are you certain the app you are using is using a secure connection? Likely the answer is 'no'. With a VPN enabled it will give you the peace of mind to use your phone as 'normal' with the only added task of making sure the VPN is turned on.
Edit to add: in terms of using your phone in general, for 16 days I'd probably get a local SIM. For shorter trips the AT&T international day plan is great, but would be very expensive for a 16 day trip. Remember that it is not just the $10/day but also your taxes will be much higher on the bill as well.
Edit to add: in terms of using your phone in general, for 16 days I'd probably get a local SIM. For shorter trips the AT&T international day plan is great, but would be very expensive for a 16 day trip. Remember that it is not just the $10/day but also your taxes will be much higher on the bill as well.
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#10
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The answer is the same as when someone is asking an advice between Seat A or B, Airline C or D and so on...
It will mainly depend on OP own considerations : using a VPN over a public wifi might seems safer for her but as a free VPN might not be enough..
every one has its own criterias. Personnaly I tend to consider that HTTPS with banking website is enough to secure a communication with my own device (indeed not with public computers).
If I can give an advice : If I was a non-european and I was to spend 3 weeks in the UK , I'd buy a local sim card : it won't be too expensive if done properly and can prevent the stress to find a (working) public wifi.
It will mainly depend on OP own considerations : using a VPN over a public wifi might seems safer for her but as a free VPN might not be enough..
every one has its own criterias. Personnaly I tend to consider that HTTPS with banking website is enough to secure a communication with my own device (indeed not with public computers).
If I can give an advice : If I was a non-european and I was to spend 3 weeks in the UK , I'd buy a local sim card : it won't be too expensive if done properly and can prevent the stress to find a (working) public wifi.
#11
Join Date: Apr 2014
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As they say, you get what you pay for. I strongly encourage people to use a VPN when using public WiFi. And if you're going to use a VPN, pay for a decent one. As mentioned by someone else, PIA is good. I've read decent things about TunnelBear as well. They are not expensive.
#12
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I can't agree more. But if OP has to pay for something, a Pay as you go Sim card might be much more interesting : same security level as in the US with AT&T and no need to keep looking for a public wifi (and by experience, the more you need one, the less you find one).
#13
Join Date: Apr 2014
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It may not be one or the other. For 16 days a local SIM is a must. But perhaps the cost for a large data plan is too high and they will still need WiFi. Or perhaps they also have an iPad or laptop. Paying for a VPN service will provide security for all devices.
I can't agree more. But if OP has to pay for something, a Pay as you go Sim card might be much more interesting : same security level as in the US with AT&T and no need to keep looking for a public wifi (and by experience, the more you need one, the less you find one).
#14
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I like VyprVPN because the apps (at least on iOS) have a feature to automatically connect on untrusted WiFi networks with the ability to whitelist networks you trust.
HTTPS is secure, but susceptible to man-in-the-middle attacks which is exactly how an attacker would compromise a public hotspot (or a bad actor establish one with this sole intent) and obviously there are plenty of places on the internet that do not use HTTPS.
HTTPS is secure, but susceptible to man-in-the-middle attacks which is exactly how an attacker would compromise a public hotspot (or a bad actor establish one with this sole intent) and obviously there are plenty of places on the internet that do not use HTTPS.
#15


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Thanks.




