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antichef Mar 14, 2016 7:27 am

You could write them down on a sheet of paper and carry them with you. That is very secure, but possibly a little inconvenient.

Keeping them unencrypted on a google sheet or word doc in the cloud that you call up as required will be very simple but shockingly insecure. Like hanging them on a public notice board if you are ever going to access the them through a hotel or coffee shop wifi.

Putting all your sensitive material in one place with a simple password would be like putting all your money in a box on your front porch secured only by a simple $3 cycle lock. If you thought of it that way you just would not do it.

There are a variety of options out there, you have to choose what level of security you want.

As explained above, I think the $12 per year "lock" is a good balance of cost for convenience and security across all my devices for all my sensitive data. You may be content with the $3 cycle lock but I seriously caution against just keeping them in an unencrypted document in the cloud.

gfunkdave Mar 14, 2016 7:38 am


Originally Posted by antichef (Post 26330011)

Keeping them unencrypted on a google sheet or word doc in the cloud that you call up as required will be very simple but shockingly insecure. Like hanging them on a public notice board if you are ever going to access the them through a hotel or coffee shop wifi.

All Google sites force TLS. You'd be fine using a public wifi hotspot to access your spreadsheet, depending on the strength of your Google password and whether you enabled 2FA.

deniah Mar 14, 2016 8:54 am


Originally Posted by Dodge DeBoulet (Post 26330007)
And I'm seriously suggesting you think a bit longer about whether a Google Drive hosted, password-protected spreadsheet is really safe enough.

I can see using it to make vague references to your real accounts and passwords

e.g.
location: HSBC
pw: SteveYoung08


drive entry:
"bcbank
sbchamp"

Cat Man Do Mar 14, 2016 9:48 am



And I'm seriously suggesting you think a bit longer about whether a Google Drive hosted, password-protected spreadsheet is really safe enough.
This times 12.

I have lost count of the number of clients I've had whose Yahoo/Gmail/Hotmail accounts were phished or brute-forced. Usually its just to send spam, but sooner or later someone will start going through contents, as we store more and more information in the cloud.

jsnydcsa Mar 14, 2016 9:50 am


Originally Posted by deniah (Post 26330376)
I can see using it to make vague references to your real accounts and passwords

e.g.
location: HSBC
pw: SteveYoung08


drive entry:
"bcbank
sbchamp"

I'll echo others and say "with my brain" ... with some help.

I keep things store in a locally accessible device - not the cloud or a password service - and use all sorts of reminders to help me.

I just don't trust the various storage systems or password services to be secure. I'd rather blame myself for a blown password than having to change ALL of them b/c one of these services gets hacked. I'll admit they have some pretty serious sounding security in place. But, sadly, I've seen that same description applied to many other services I'm in that did get hacked.

Troopers Mar 14, 2016 9:57 am

I use Evernote, and love it.

onlysuites Mar 14, 2016 11:59 am


Originally Posted by Dodge DeBoulet (Post 26330007)
And I'm seriously suggesting you think a bit longer about whether a Google Drive hosted, password-protected spreadsheet is really safe enough.

I guess you are right. Its not very secure. I didn't mind lastpass when I tried it last night.

Two things I disliked about it. Maybe there is a workaround?

1. I use Safari and it disabled my current password forms. So say if I went to KLM.com my username and password was no longer there. I have to go to the Safari add-on and search for KLM then click on the link which then opens up a new website where I have to start from scratch. I found this to be a longer way.

2. My passwords are stored with them. How secure is that when it comes to banking information?

Can I use safari auto filler and lastpass at the same time?

manda99 Mar 14, 2016 12:05 pm


Originally Posted by onlysuites (Post 26331246)
I guess you are right. Its not very secure. I didn't mind lastpass when I tried it last night.

Two things I disliked about it. Maybe there is a workaround?

1. I use Safari and it disabled my current password forms. So say if I went to KLM.com my username and password was no longer there. I have to go to the Safari add-on and search for KLM then click on the link which then opens up a new website where I have to start from scratch. I found this to be a longer way.

2. My passwords are stored with them. How secure is that when it comes to banking information?

Can I use safari auto filler and lastpass at the same time?

I haven't tried LastPass, but 1Password and Safari keychain play nice.

Madone59 Mar 14, 2016 12:10 pm

I post mine on FT so I can refer back to them later :D

No, really I have a rotation of 4 which is plenty of security for me.

onlysuites Mar 14, 2016 12:12 pm


Originally Posted by Madone59 (Post 26331305)
I post mine on FT so I can refer back to them later :D

No, really I have a rotation of 4 which is plenty of security for me.

Post your passwords here thread. Great idea. :D

gfunkdave Mar 14, 2016 12:31 pm


Originally Posted by onlysuites (Post 26331246)
I guess you are right. Its not very secure. I didn't mind lastpass when I tried it last night.

Two things I disliked about it. Maybe there is a workaround?

1. I use Safari and it disabled my current password forms. So say if I went to KLM.com my username and password was no longer there. I have to go to the Safari add-on and search for KLM then click on the link which then opens up a new website where I have to start from scratch. I found this to be a longer way.

2. My passwords are stored with them. How secure is that when it comes to banking information?

Can I use safari auto filler and lastpass at the same time?

LastPass auto-fills login forms. If not, just click its little logo in the username/password boxes and select the values you want.

onlysuites Mar 14, 2016 1:00 pm


Originally Posted by gfunkdave (Post 26331414)
LastPass auto-fills login forms. If not, just click its little logo in the username/password boxes and select the values you want.

Wasn't doing that for me. Let me recheck.

gfunkdave Mar 14, 2016 1:10 pm


Originally Posted by onlysuites (Post 26331590)
Wasn't doing that for me. Let me recheck.

Ah. Preferences -> General -> Automatically Fill Login Information

Also you may want to uncheck Preferences -> Advanced -> Respect AutoComplete=off: allow websites to disable AutoFill

GRALISTAIR Mar 14, 2016 1:12 pm


Originally Posted by onlysuites (Post 26325605)
So how do you guys do it? Using the same password would be silly but yet having 10 different ones is so difficult to remember.

I keep on a local drive not a network drive and not in the cloud in a Microsoft Word Document. This document itself has a ridiculously long password which nobody could guess even my wife. I remember this by a mnemonic which only I would know.

onlysuites Mar 14, 2016 1:50 pm


Originally Posted by GRALISTAIR (Post 26331657)
I keep on a local drive not a network drive and not in the cloud in a Microsoft Word Document. This document itself has a ridiculously long password which nobody could guess even my wife. I remember this by a mnemonic which only I would know.

What do you use though? Word document? But aren't these quite easy to crack?


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