Haswell ultrabook vs large tablets
Jun 6, 2013 | 8:43 pm
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I can't see going out for the day with a 10" tablet at all; it's still too big to fit in a pocket. Once I have a carrying case with a shoulder strap, the difference between a just-under-2lb tablet and a just-under-3lb ultrabook (or a 2lb tablet and a 1lb keyboard) is trivial.
...and either one is a lot lighter than the almost 5lbs that the ultrabook+tablet would come to.
...plus, if you don't need the keyboard, something like the ASUS Transformer or the XPS 10 isn't any heavier if you don't bring the keyboard with you.
Depends on which one. In general, while they're slightly bulkier, the newer generation of them aren't any heavier than comparable ultrabooks.
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and if you dislike converged devices, you'll REALLY dislike this one: http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/1214...ok-trio-review
...and either one is a lot lighter than the almost 5lbs that the ultrabook+tablet would come to.
So any tablet is going to be lighter than these combo things.
And Ultrabooks are lighter than these convertible devices where the screen folds over.
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and if you dislike converged devices, you'll REALLY dislike this one: http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/1214...ok-trio-review
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Jun 6, 2013 | 9:35 pm
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HP plans a fanless Intel Haswell tablet for later this year - engadget.com
This Haswell-Packing Gaming Laptop Is Your Deal of the Day - gizmodo.com
We thought we wouldn't get to see a fanless Intel Core portable until Haswell's successor, Broadwell (and its even smaller 14nm chips) started doing the rounds in a few years, but some clever hardware design could mean we see space-hogging, power-consuming fans dropped a little early.
14-inch Lenovo gaming laptop packing a quad-core Core i7-4700MQ is on sale for $720
Jun 6, 2013 | 11:27 pm
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I've taken my iPad around in my messenger bag, which I was going to take for other things besides the iPad.
Mini would be better but iPad is still better than my MacBook Pro and probably also noticeably better than a MacBook Air, because I'm walking for miles with that bag slung over my shoulder on my trip.
Mini would be better but iPad is still better than my MacBook Pro and probably also noticeably better than a MacBook Air, because I'm walking for miles with that bag slung over my shoulder on my trip.
Jun 7, 2013 | 12:22 am
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Mini would be better but iPad is still better than my MacBook Pro and probably also noticeably better than a MacBook Air, because I'm walking for miles with that bag slung over my shoulder on my trip.
The biggest/heaviest convertible devices I'm aware of will be about 2lbs heavier than an iPad on their own, or marginally heavier than the MBA 13".
I don't get the appeal of carrying around ANY of the above all day; if I'm walking that much, it means I'm on vacation and likely want to get away from the machines -- but you'd certainly want to stick with the lower-powered devices, and leave the keyboard at your hotel. Meanwhile, your weight during airport connections is 3lbs heavier, plus another device to deal with in security (and the hotel safe) by bringing both a laptop and tablet rather than a converged device. Ditto all the software-management advantages.
But hey, as everyone says, there's no accounting for taste, and the initial crop of higher-end converged devices have a price premium (the ones converging up from the bottom with a keyboard dock don't; many of them are cheaper than the iPad.)
For my use, as I've already said, a converged device that's more laptop than tablet would be ideal, and when the Haswell-generation devices shake out and come down in price a bit I am planning to replace my current travel machine with one. That won't be the path for everyone; a lot more people will do fine with the converged-up rather than needing the converged-down devices, and are probably better served saving the money.
Jun 7, 2013 | 2:17 pm
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I pack my laptop because of photography.
Neither an Air or ultrabook with SSD or iPad or any tablet is sufficient for that.
Where iPad is handy is that if you're away from the hotel all day, there are down times when it's useful. I've used it on long train rides for instance and used it on long flights.
Even in some hotels, I can let my laptop process my RAWs and do some browsing on the iPad. I could do it on the laptop but the photo software will peg the CPU when it's processing a couple of hundred RAWs.
Of course there's a big gap in battery life vs. power, each having pros and cons for different uses.
Taking iPad through flight security adds a few seconds to pull out and put away. It's in an adjacent pocket to my laptop.
Neither an Air or ultrabook with SSD or iPad or any tablet is sufficient for that.
Where iPad is handy is that if you're away from the hotel all day, there are down times when it's useful. I've used it on long train rides for instance and used it on long flights.
Even in some hotels, I can let my laptop process my RAWs and do some browsing on the iPad. I could do it on the laptop but the photo software will peg the CPU when it's processing a couple of hundred RAWs.
Of course there's a big gap in battery life vs. power, each having pros and cons for different uses.
Taking iPad through flight security adds a few seconds to pull out and put away. It's in an adjacent pocket to my laptop.
Jun 8, 2013 | 11:17 am
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Barrons quotes Piper....
In the heyday of muscle cars, everyone knew what engine was under the hood. Horsepower sold a car. Today no one even looks under the hood. Electronics are undergoing a similar shift in focus. CPUs are less important and modems, connectivity, displays, cameras, and battery life have been elevated in importance [...] There are $4 ARM based CPUs from Asian vendors using turnkey ARM designs. High-end smartphone and tablet OEMs design their own SoCs with ARM cores. ARM has effectively commoditized the CPU market in phones and tablets. In the smartphone market, the dominant CPU is ARM and not Intel. Similarly, in the PC market, the dominant CPU is Intel and not ARM and this is also unlikely to change. However, the world has moved into the post-PC era and that is slowly grinding down Intels market position. The PC client business is still 63% of revenue last quarter and Intel has not demonstrated that it can offset the stagnation in the PC market. The commodity nature of CPUs is likely to drive a mix shift to the low end. We believe that Silvermont is a very capable CPU that has low power and good performance. It also can run Windows well. We think that it is likely to cannibalize higher-end notebook sales more than other tablet sales. Thus, we think it drives a small net gain in unit sales, but it significantly reduces Intels revenue per box. We estimate that a system that uses a Silvermont processor will generate 1/5 to 1/2 the revenue for Intel than a Haswell processor. We think that this is the consequence of CPUs being good enough and devices no longer driven by CPU performance. Moreover, we believe that the mobile and PC ecosystem are separate and distinct. For consumers that just want a tablet experience as they exist today, they are more likely to buy an iPad or other ARM-based competitor. Consumers that want a PC experience (Windows) are likely to purchase a Silvermont-based machine.