What exactly is "cloud"?
#3
In Memoriam
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Easton, CT, USA
Programs: ua prem exec, Former hilton diamond
Posts: 31,801
It pretty much means anything that is not local storage that you can access online now.
If I put a server in my house that has files available to me online, those files are considered being stored in "the cloud" even though they could be in the next room.
If I rent space from Amazon to store on their servers anywhere in the world, that's also the cloud.
I think the most commonly accepted definitions now imply access via the internet, in the past that was not always the case.
If I put a server in my house that has files available to me online, those files are considered being stored in "the cloud" even though they could be in the next room.
If I rent space from Amazon to store on their servers anywhere in the world, that's also the cloud.
I think the most commonly accepted definitions now imply access via the internet, in the past that was not always the case.
#4


Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Seattle
Programs: BA GGL & LTG, EK Silver, HHonors Lifetime Diamond; Proudly Mucci Free - total nonsense
Posts: 865
Pay-per-use, self service setup, available over the internet, on demand.
This is pretty much a layman version of the industry accepted NIST definition.
This is pretty much a layman version of the industry accepted NIST definition.
#6

Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: West hartford, CT
Programs: DL Platinum, Hilton Gold
Posts: 99
It basically means that you are storing your data (music, images, files, etc) on somebody-elses computer that is available on the Internet.
To do this you should TRUST that person/company to backup your files and not go out of business, where you could lose everything on their computer.
You gain the ability to access your files from any Internet-connected computer, but lose the ability to access your files when you don't have an Internet connection.
To do this you should TRUST that person/company to backup your files and not go out of business, where you could lose everything on their computer.
You gain the ability to access your files from any Internet-connected computer, but lose the ability to access your files when you don't have an Internet connection.
#7
Original Poster
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Some hole
Posts: 2,783
It basically means that you are storing your data (music, images, files, etc) on somebody-elses computer that is available on the Internet.
To do this you should TRUST that person/company to backup your files and not go out of business, where you could lose everything on their computer.
You gain the ability to access your files from any Internet-connected computer, but lose the ability to access your files when you don't have an Internet connection.
To do this you should TRUST that person/company to backup your files and not go out of business, where you could lose everything on their computer.
You gain the ability to access your files from any Internet-connected computer, but lose the ability to access your files when you don't have an Internet connection.
So I guess a benefit of cloud is you save hard drive space?
#8

Join Date: Jan 2005
Programs: Dirt
Posts: 949
Cloud to me means Software as a Service (SaaS) or in layman's term "let others worry about the infrastructure".
Cloud's main appeal is that it is accessible from anywhere from any device as long as you have an Internet connection. The data is still available should you lose your device (vs locally stored files/applications.)
If you are wary of prying eyes, you can encrypt your data before uploading.
Cloud's main appeal is that it is accessible from anywhere from any device as long as you have an Internet connection. The data is still available should you lose your device (vs locally stored files/applications.)
If you are wary of prying eyes, you can encrypt your data before uploading.
#9
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: California
Posts: 2,731
For benefits, yes, you can save hard drive space, but for me the primary benefit is that I work on multiple computers, and everything is automatically synced across machines.
#10

Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: West hartford, CT
Programs: DL Platinum, Hilton Gold
Posts: 99
If the site uses HTTPS (secure sockets), than the data going to/from your computer to theirs is encrypted. But once it reaches their compuer, anyone who has access to their database and/or file system has access to your files. Typically, there are controls to limit who can see what. You'll never know what those controls are - or how well they work.
Most, if not all, cloud-based sevices require authentication (ID and password) to access data stored there. Part of the security is how secure your ID and Password is.
Do I trust the "cloud"? Personally, I'm a backup-fanatic. I have multiple copies in multiple places (including "the cloud") of anything that's vaguely important to me. I backup every night. If you keep a "local" copy as well as a "cloud" copy, there's a distinct advantage to using "the cloud" - assuming you trust the cloud owner to do their part to support security. Frankly, there's no real way to answer that last part - you just have to have a modicum of faith!
bert
#12

Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: West hartford, CT
Programs: DL Platinum, Hilton Gold
Posts: 99
One of the reasons to use "cloud" storage is for an off-site backup.
#13
Original Poster
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Some hole
Posts: 2,783
Unfortunately, it is my only storage option. I replace it every few years and just transfer the files to a new drive. What cloud program are you using? And what do you recommend?
#14

Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: West hartford, CT
Programs: DL Platinum, Hilton Gold
Posts: 99
There are many options for internet backup. I use iDrive, which I have been happy with. I also backup up nightly to an external storage device (RAID NAS). I've been using/building/programming computers since the late 60's and have lost more data than most people have. I'm just a bit more than fanatical than most about backup, but it's not without reason.
Personally, I wouldn't be happy with JUST cloud backup or JUST local backup - either can be lost in a blink of an eye.
Personally, I wouldn't be happy with JUST cloud backup or JUST local backup - either can be lost in a blink of an eye.
#15
 



Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Upcountry Maui, HI
Posts: 13,708

