I'll put you down as a "maybe" then....

Seriously though, what's the deal with not just being content to affirm your own technology choices, but needing to rubbish others at the same time?

unlocked current iphones are usually $649 in the base size, so that's a $100 reduction. Though we don't know what the unlocked price of the iphone 5 will be. I'm guessing $649 for the base size.

I don't think unlocked was ever available for CDMA at purchase time, just GSM.
(though vzw and I guess sprint will unlock the gsm side after some time as a customer in good standing with them.)

-David

It's a sport around here, and every time somebody responds to one of his posts, that gives him another opportunity to disrupt the thread.

-David

The title of the thread is "IPhone 5- whose getting one?" Many people are answering that they do not intend to get one, largely due to lack of innovation compared to some Samsung phones.

Would it be rude to point out the title should be "IPhone 5- who's getting one?"

yeah sure, same itunes account can have multiple devices, each device has a different name, the backups are separate, but they can both share the same photostream, same or different apps, same or different media or all shared through icloud, same phonebook entries, etc, etc.

So you would have MR_MAMA's iphone4 and MR_MAMA's iphone5 in itunes and in icloud for backups.

-David

Not until it works with Tmobile USA and my cheap internet plan.

Hardware is a reasonable incremental improvement, but iOS 6 is the real let down. Maps may have potential for the future, but the 3D feature that they make so much of is only available in major US cities currently.

Thanks, the $100 makes the iPhone 4s a reasonable buy. And the HK apple store is already pre-selling factory unlocked GSM version of iPhone 5 for equivalent to US$720 for base 16gb model.


Vz for sure did sell factory unlocked version. And I just chatted with Vz on-line CS and they quoted 'old/current' prices. They said adjustment would be made once iPhone actually releases, so I guess must wait till Sept 21 to see if they reduce their iphone 4s to $549.

I am looking for the unlock one, it looks like HKG store is the only place I found info at $ 5588 HKD ~$720 USD. Canada store has it for $699 but tax is arm+leg

Do we know whether the new iPhone 5 maintains the old SIM or goes with a Nano SIM. All the prerelease stuff said nano, but the picture I saw looked like a micro.

I stand corrected .. I guess the benefit is no contract vs just waiting the 3 - 6 months until they will unlock the gsm side?

nano sim.

3 different models - http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/12/apple-iphone-5-lte/

-David

All the usual tech sites are reporting the Apple has confirmed the nano SIM.

Yep. My 4 is stating to show its age a bit and unlocked iPhones still sell for a decent price on fleabay. Now if AT&T would process my unlock request.....

So other than much faster cellular networking, faster WiFi networking, bigger screen, higher resolution, better color presentation, better cameras, new OS with hundreds of features, a processor that's twice as fast, more memory, thinner, lighter, smaller connector, longer battery life, video stabilization, additional microphones, better wideband speakers, cellular video-conferencing, and new earbuds...

it's almost exactly the same.

The one that's not on the market yet? No, I can't buy that one today. :)

The XPRT is the only Android phone that's ever made it through, and that was touted with the same "enterprise-class security", so this new one may make it. TMobile just won't work for me though.

"Very very frightening!"

My 3GS seems pretty outdated. Might have to spring for something.

and it still has those patented rounded corners :D

sign me up !

Good point, put me down as a yes. iPhone does everything I need it to do.

Instinctively, I'm underwhelmed by the iPhone5 and the iOS6 (the absence of easy access to the toggle switches for wifi/bt is starting to get mildly annoying). And might consider either sticking to my iPhone 4 for another year, or grab a SGSIII / HTC equivalent for a year.

Need to do more research and see if my instincts are right.

Pre-order online starting September 14.

Or buy at your favorite Apple Retail Store starting at 8:00 a.m. on September 21.

Naw...the rampant homonym errors fit the meme of the Apple fanboy perfectly. :D :D :D

a bit annoying that they couldn't package LTE for all the bands in there - I'd like a phone that can do what it does in the USA as well as it does back home in Australia.

I'm not crazy on the screen size change, I liked that everything was the same aspect ratio. I would've happily taken all the other goodies and had them stuffed into the casing for a 4, even if it was slightly fatter (though the length change isn't all that much). Battery life increase is a plus.

If I do upgrade while it is still the 5 and not 5s, I'll be waiting for the untethered jailbreak. I'm quite happy with the 4 on iOS 4.3.3 (a few tweaks I like don't work on iOS 5)

So I just need to use the same ICloud ID on both devices? Then I think will let my office buy the 5 and I can keep the 4 which is unlocked. Sweet.

Yes it would be, but thanks for pointing it out

:confused:

The 5 has the same resolution and pixel density [just a wider aspect ratio], the same amount of memory and storage capacity, and only the front-facing facetime camera is [slightly] improved - the main camera is the same.

I really agree with this. I wonder if Apple would have been a lot better off long term if they had licensed out iOS. Android probably would have never had a chance, and Samsung Galaxy phones would all be running Apple software. Apple probably could have controlled 90% of the global market for smartphone software, much as Microsoft dominates PCs.

The way things are going, Apple appears headed toward niche status. It's like Mac vs. Windows all over again.

Apple's cachet won't last long if competitors keep leapfrogging Apple hardware. (See Samsung.) Already the Galaxy S3 has been outselling the iPhone 4S.

Correct on resolution (should have been increased pixel count)- incorrect on all the others, based on everything I've read (I didn't say anything about storage). 1GB RAM, panorama/improved noise reduction/sapphire crystal rear camera, 1.2MP front camera.

As you didn't mention them, I assume you agree with the other 14 improvements? I does say "iPhone" though - heck, just like the original one. Where's the innovation???

So the 4 month old S3 is outselling the year-old, soon to be replaced 4S? Is anyone surprised at that?

(though a quick Google shows Samsung projecting 30 million sales this year (May-Dec, 8 months), the "slowing" 4s sold 35 million last quarter (3 months))

30 million sgs3, 10 million sg note, a few million of each of several other models... Samsung far outsells Apple. The Apple meme is that choice is bad, and that's the problem with Apple.

Man, don't people have iFatigue? They keep dropping new products that are marginally better than their previous versions, and people line up to buy them. Good for them, but I'm bored with Apple. Gonna wait for the new Blackberry 10 with the keyboard, if it ever comes out.

Regardless, nothing you mention can be considered even remotely to be "innovations". Modest spec changes over the 4S - yes. Innovative - no.

The same Apple ID, and I think you can probably let it restore from the iphone 4 backup, but since you are keeping both you will want separate backups.

-David

Me, Galileo:D.....was with a self proclaimed fanboi last night when the thing was announced and he just went "Nah - I'll stick with the 4S + mophie battery case and save my money" I was left open mouthed that he wasn't salivating at the thought and subconciously removing his credit card from his wallet.

well i wont be getting one it has nothing that i dont already have or have had in the past for instance how is the iphone 5 better then my galaxy S3 thats the problem they havent shown me a reason why i need an iphone 5

You do realize that many of those features are OS related and will be available to anyone that can upgrade to iOS6?

Oh, and dear iPhone users - welcome to the world of fragmentation you always mocked Android for.

This is perfect. Thank you

I'm up for upgrade on Sprint now. The release of the iPhone 5 now has me sort of looking at the 4S. It's already at $50 with a 2-yr re-up...probably soon to be $0.

I've been pretty happy with my Galaxy S. My other option is probably to stick it out for the next round of Androids to come out and then get an S3.

At some point I'd like to organize my media around a cohesive ecosystem...that's what had me looking at Apple to begin with. But lately I've been thinking a bit more about Amazon and just staying with Android for phones.

Mrs. jsnydcsa and I have been with T-Mo since the Voicestream days we've wanted iPhone's for some time and were longing for T-Mo to join the fold.

Our 3+ year old Blackberries are starting to give up the ghost and we've suffered some major CS lapses from T-Mo in the last 6-12 months or so. Plus, we've seen a bit of bill creep over the years (my fault, not T-Mo's, I know) that has pretty much made our T-Mo bill nearly equal to projected Verizon bill with two new iPhones.

While I've always appreciated T-Mo's cheap turn-on/turn-off international email (formerly all data) roaming, I'll miss it when we switch over (likely to Verizon) to iPhone 5.

I'm no Apple fanboi but as a former BB owner, I find it hard to believe BB will be around long enough to launch BB10. Just look at their dismal performance and constant delays...